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Ok it was mentioned there is not a thread for Law Enforcement Officers (LEO for short)and other similar jobs for discussion.

This is for discussing the actual jobs, ranks, training, culture, relations to military bodies that exist, and any other variety of topics that can arise pertaining to the World of Policing.

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#5376: Apr 28th 2017 at 5:41:27 AM

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The only thing that can void it are murders and other extreme crimes, which are specifically stated to be outside the "first time"-principle.

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#5377: Apr 28th 2017 at 5:57:34 AM

[up]Dude was breaking laws for decades without getting caught. "Drug Lord" needs serious XP to pull off for even three months.

That was my point: to only get caught after going that big takes skill, because of all the steps it took him to get where he was when he was, for whatever reason, caught. <_<

"No priors" in this instance is a technicality. Because there were very likely plenty. tongue

edited 28th Apr '17 5:58:39 AM by Euodiachloris

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#5378: Apr 28th 2017 at 6:27:09 AM

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All the charges combined, brought 13 years. None of them alone were even close enough to warrant 10-years or more.

While it's highly likely that he committed other crimes as well, there simply is no evidence whatsoever. He's by no means an idiot and possibly knew how the trial would go.

edited 28th Apr '17 6:32:37 AM by TerminusEst

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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#5379: Apr 28th 2017 at 7:34:06 AM

How can you be a first-time offender and convicted on multiple charges? Only one of those charges should count as a first offense.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#5380: Apr 28th 2017 at 7:41:10 AM

"First-time offender" refers to the conviction from which you receive a prison sentence. At the end of the trial when the final sentence is given. So 13 years would be shortened to 6,5. The next time he gets convicted, this will no longer apply.

To simply make one of them count is illegal I believe. They have to be considered as a package.

edited 28th Apr '17 7:50:08 AM by TerminusEst

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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#5381: Apr 28th 2017 at 8:07:53 AM

That is so dumb. What I am hearing is that if you intend to crime, crime hard, because no matter how many crimes they nail you for, it's all lumped together under the First-Time umbrella.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#5382: Apr 28th 2017 at 8:35:34 AM

Trust me, it gets far more complicated. The nature of the crimes, what can be pinned on him specifically etc. all contribute towards whether it can be applied.

Without seeing the case files, it's impossible to see what the reasoning was.

edited 28th Apr '17 8:38:50 AM by TerminusEst

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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
rollin' on dubs
#5383: Apr 30th 2017 at 10:12:06 PM

Sounds like Finland has it's version of the Rampart scandal.

Oh Matt Griffin, I think we found someone who's even more of a smug bastard that you are.

@Matt Griffin: Alburquerque Police Officer who was more of a crook than most crooks. He even robbed banks. Was finally caught and sent to prison.

He SUES the state of NM and WINS.

Real life can sometimes outdo fiction.....

edited 5th May '17 10:38:57 PM by TairaMai

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AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#5384: May 5th 2017 at 7:53:56 PM

So this Sunday I'll be doing the first of several tests spread over the next months to join my state's police force.

Tomorrow morning I'll be leaving to the city where the tests will be conducted, so I won't post anything then since I'll be traveling and preparing for the test.

I'd like to say I'm not anxious because this test but I'd be lying. I am confident I can get the needed score but still, a test is a test.

edited 5th May '17 7:54:22 PM by AngelusNox

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#5385: May 5th 2017 at 8:02:19 PM

You should send me a souvenir. Like cute hat or a weed brick or something.

Oh really when?
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#5386: May 6th 2017 at 11:26:38 PM

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/indonesia-200-still-large-prison-escape-021349551.html

Indonesian law enforcement reports of a massive jailbreak with 200 convicts on the loose.

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United Earth
#5387: May 7th 2017 at 1:04:37 AM

When are we getting The Movie?

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AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#5388: May 8th 2017 at 1:57:27 PM

Welp.

So, I finished the test and I got the partial results, I scored high enough to ensure I wouldn't be disqualified but not high enough to ensure that my entrance to the next phase is guaranteed but the chances are decent.

So this pretty much means I will intensify my physical training and try to achieve the highest scores possible in the physical aptitude tests.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
#5389: May 15th 2017 at 6:01:41 AM

In the wake of the upcoming handover anniversary in Hong Kong, here's a retro vid of the RHKP conducting security preparations.


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TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#5390: May 18th 2017 at 10:39:33 AM

The cop charged with manslaughter for shooting Terrence Crutcher (a black man who was unarmed, cooperating, and outside of his car with his hands up) has been found not guilty

A Tulsa, Oklahoma, police officer was found not guilty of first-degree manslaughter on Wednesday for the shooting of an unarmed black man last year.

The verdict comes months after videos showed officer Betty Shelby shooting and killing Terence Crutcher, a black 40-year-old man. In the videos, Crutcher appeared to be cooperating with police, with his hands up as they escorted him toward his car. Yet suddenly, in moments that were largely obstructed in the videos released by the Tulsa Police Department, an officer shot and killed Crutcher.

According to the local newspaper Tulsa World, police were responding to a call on September 16 when they spotted Crutcher’s stalled car. We don’t know what happened when police arrived at the scene. Instead, the videos begin as Crutcher is guided by officers, one of whom is aiming her gun at him, slowly to his car. He has his hands up during this time.

Police say that Crutcher then failed to follow orders and reached into his car — leading officer Shelby to fire her weapon and officer Tyler Turnbough to use his Taser on Crutcher. By the looks of the videos, the Taser and gun were seemingly fired almost simultaneously.

The videos — one a police dashboard camera on the ground, another on a helicopter in the air — are obstructed by officers and Crutcher’s car at the exact moment he was shot. That makes it hard to discern whether Crutcher had his hands up right as Shelby pulled the trigger.

But Crutcher had his hands up in the air until at least the seconds before he was shot, and he appears — although, again, it’s hard to say for sure — to put his hands on the roof of his car right before the officer fired. His car's windows were also closed, making it impossible that he actually reached into the vehicle.

Police found no weapon on Crutcher or in his car.

Law enforcement reportedly found PCP in Crutcher's car. An attorney for Shelby told Tulsa World that she thought Crutcher was on drugs when she shot him. But that has no bearing on whether the shooting was legally justified — unless Crutcher acted in a dangerous or threatening manner before he was shot, which the video doesn't show.

Several of Shelby's colleagues who were on the scene testified during the trial, arguing that Crutcher was not complying with commands and reached into his pockets. Their testimony bolstered her argument that she feared for her life.

Crutcher's family condemned the jury's verdict, arguing that police had worked to cover up his "murder." "Let it be known that I believe in my heart that Betty Shelby got away with murder, and I don't know what was in the mind of that jury," Crutcher's father, Joseph, told reporters.

Please note the bolded parts. I wonder what would happen to someone who wasn't a cop if such an obvious hole in their story/justification was found...

Video leaked from a Texas police body cam, showing the police casually using a taser on a handcuffed suspect

Two weeks after a now-fired Balch Springs police officer shot and killed a 15-year old boy, the police chief is investigating who leaked video of another incident involving his officers.

The leaked body cam video is from an April 28, 2016 incident that shows a white Balch Springs officer using a taser on a handcuffed black man.

The body cam video starts with an officer responding to a call about a man waving a gun in a neighborhood. As the officer arrives, the video shows the suspect, 39-year-old Marco Stephenson, on his knees with his hands on his head. He appears to be complying with officer's commands.

As officers approach Stephenson, a gun is kicked away that was later determined to be a BB gun. As officers are removing his backpack, he mentions spitting out a toothpick. The situation then escalates.

“Don't pull away! You understand? You understand?” a sergeant on the video says as he’s tasing Stephenson. “Don't pull away! You get it?! You get it?! Because I ain't playing with you today! Do you understand?!"

"Yes sir,” Stephenson replied.

The sergeant using the taser is a supervisor. Chief Haber says the sergeant's actions were questioned by his own officers.

“We looked at it. At the end of the day, they did the right thing,” Haber said. “They brought it to our attention."

The police chief says the video was reviewed by the Texas Rangers, Professional Standards and the Dallas County DA’s Public Integrity Unit.

“We decided together that this was an administrative issue, not a criminal issue,” Haber said.

The chief says the sergeant was reprimanded and put on "no contact with the public" until he completed classes on conflict resolution, anti-bias and how to respond to mental health calls.

As for Stephenson, Haber says he was well known to authorities with arrests for everything from criminal trespass to aggravated assault on a public servant on one of his own officers.

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Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#5392: May 18th 2017 at 4:50:59 PM

What a smuck. The guy being plastered for being said smuck is also the ass hat who had an inmate who died of dehydration after being denied water for 7 days awaiting evaluation.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#5393: May 18th 2017 at 4:52:01 PM

I suspect the only reason conservatives trumpet him as being worth anything is because he is a black man who doesn't like Black Lives Matter.

edited 18th May '17 4:52:15 PM by AFP

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#5394: May 18th 2017 at 4:59:10 PM

[up]This-same deal as Ben Carson, except being a LEO who without a badge would be a vigilante or serial killer.

edited 18th May '17 4:59:36 PM by ViperMagnum357

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#5395: May 18th 2017 at 6:58:57 PM

And in a just world would be on a trip to The Hague by now.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#5396: May 20th 2017 at 10:56:45 PM

Sheriff David Clarke plagiarized portions of his master's thesis on homeland security

Seems that at about 47 different points in his thesis, he cited sources in his footnotes but did not use quotations to indicate when he was using someone else's words.

In academic terms, that's like putting all four tires on the van, but neglecting to put on the lug nuts.

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United Earth
#5397: May 21st 2017 at 12:43:17 AM

What about paraphrasing? Or did he quote verbatim?

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#5398: May 21st 2017 at 4:54:54 AM

Sounds like he quoted verbatim. They have a bunch of examples shown in the article.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#5399: May 21st 2017 at 7:00:18 AM

Yeah, that's textbook plagiarism right there. Could get his degree revoked at the very least, and maybe cost him his job.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#5400: May 21st 2017 at 11:00:23 AM

So, just started watching the first season of NCIS on Netflix. Man, this show as goofy early on (which is only fitting given the show's JAG pedigree). I'm amused that with all the Jurisdiction Friction going on in the pilot (FBI, Secret Service, Wichita County Coroner's Office, and NCIS), nobody evidently bothered to call the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, given that the murder (of a Navy officer) in question happened aboard an Air Force jet, despite them having an office across town (at the nearby Air Force Base that they decided not to land at for reasons) from where the plane supposedly landed, while NCIS had to take two flights to get there.

The second episode made a joke about someone expecting JAG lawyers to show up to investigate a suspected murder. I laughed because, well, that was the entire premise of JAG.

edited 21st May '17 11:00:44 AM by AFP


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