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Ok it was mentioned there is not a thread for Law Enforcement Officers (LEO for short)and other similar jobs for discussion.

This is for discussing the actual jobs, ranks, training, culture, relations to military bodies that exist, and any other variety of topics that can arise pertaining to the World of Policing.

Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#5101: Nov 13th 2016 at 12:54:09 PM

Like other political issues, race is inevitably going to factor into the politics of any narrative. This is a good write-up on the issues regarding the Ghost in the Shell movie.

Ghost in the Shell and anime's troubled history with representation

Remember that futuristic science fiction almost always deals with current anxieties and ambitions of the present. For example, Stephen Spielberg once spoke of how it's actually important for the protagonist of Minority Report to be played by a white male because his eventual distrust of the precog system reinforces how his identity as a white male law enforcement officer (even in a presumed post-racial future) made him that much more complacent with the abuses of that system. That's not meant for the internal narrative of the future so much as it's meant for the audience of today.

It's not "wrong" per se for a white woman to be Motoko Kusanagi, but the semiotics are divorced from the original narrative because Ghost in the Shell is a very Japanese story, even if you defend the notion that she's a cyborg who can be anything (but she "happens" to be white).

I've made similar arguments with characters dealing with state authority. I think it's really important for the Punisher to be a white guy with an FBI background because, again, the slaughter of his family reinforces his eventual distrust of a system that in some ways gives him preferential treatment. It also punctuate criticism he receives from other characters about his methods and motivations, namely that he comes off as an tinfoil-hat Alex Jones sycophant with a warped sense of justice. It probably helps that he was introduced as a villain in a Spider-man comic.

Or how the cast of Sicario is mostly American and framed from the perspective of an American FBI agent. This was arguably done intentionally to illustrate how US law enforcement has gravely miscalcuated the narcocultura and the greater War on Drugs. Without spoiling too much, Kate is a seasoned trigger puller, but she has to learn some hard lessons about the reality of the cartels and how the US interacts with those cartels.

Speaking of which, Sicario is a superb movie. Go watch it.

edited 13th Nov '16 1:17:42 PM by Aprilla

AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#5102: Nov 13th 2016 at 8:08:16 PM

It could be pretty interesting if they actually address that angle in the film. Did Kusanagi choose her body, or was it chosen for her? In either case, why did they choose that style vs a more Japanese look? What are her thoughts on it in regards to her self image?

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#5103: Nov 13th 2016 at 8:09:54 PM

I also think it would be real fitting for the series if they did go that route in the film. Kusanagi is Japanese but what does that really mean in the world of artificial bodies and transhumanism?

But of course they won't and just chose Johansson because she's popular and hot.

Oh really when?
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#5104: Nov 13th 2016 at 8:18:09 PM

Perhaps they picked her out of her being a recognizable female action hero since she began playing Black Widow.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#5105: Nov 13th 2016 at 8:43:48 PM

[up][up][up] Her body is literally a government issue infiltration and Honey Trap type body. If she quit being a cop she would have to give up her current body or be killed, it would be like quitting and tanking a tank with you.

Its also hinted at that she spent time in a male body and knows 'male desires' in some continuities.

edited 13th Nov '16 11:33:49 PM by Memers

AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#5106: Nov 14th 2016 at 2:41:02 AM

But anyways, definitely wandering off the reservation with this topic.

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#5108: Nov 15th 2016 at 3:38:57 AM

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#5109: Nov 17th 2016 at 9:54:24 AM

Egyptian policeman gets life sentence for killing man over cup of tea

An Egyptian court sentenced a policeman who killed a man over the price of a cup of tea to life in prison on Wednesday, a rare lengthy punishment for police violence in a country that rights activists say has a culture of impunity.

Public anger over allegations of police brutality has been bubbling over the past year, with several incidents spilling over into skirmishes and protests, five years after an uprising in which police officers were a major focus of discontent.

The policeman sentenced on Wednesday shot three people in a Cairo suburb after an argument over the price of a cup of tea, killing one of them and causing a riot. The sentence, issued after he was convicted of murder, can be appealed. Life sentences in Egypt normally run for 25 years.

Activists say police brutality is widespread in Egypt, enabled by a culture of impunity. The Interior Ministry says abuses are isolated and incidents are investigated.

Anger over perceived police excesses helped fuel the 2011 uprising that began on a Police Day holiday and ended the 30-year rule of autocratic President Hosni Mubarak. Since then, police have regained considerable powers and human rights groups say they have returned to their old ways.

In February, a policeman shot dead a driver in the street in an argument over a fare, prompting hundreds of people to protest outside the Cairo security directorate.

There were also riots in the northern, Suez Canal city of Ismailia and southern Nile city of Luxor over the authorities' handling of at least three deaths in police custody in a single week in November last year.

Egyptian security forces have faced further scrutiny over the killing of Italian researcher Giulio Regeni in Cairo this year. Human rights groups say his death bore the hallmarks of torture by Egyptian security services. They deny involvement.

(Reporting by Haitham Ahmed; writing by Ahmed Aboulenein; editing by Mark Heinrich)

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#5110: Nov 18th 2016 at 11:45:02 PM

Uncle Iroh over there needs to chill.

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#5111: Nov 19th 2016 at 2:41:41 AM

Uncle Iroh would know better than to get angry over tea. Despite being a fire bending master, he wasn't much of a hot head, at least when we saw him.

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#5112: Nov 19th 2016 at 9:36:02 AM

Fair enough. Got rather outraged about it a few times though

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#5113: Nov 23rd 2016 at 11:54:40 AM

New York Daily News: Arkansas couple spends 2 months in jail after cops mistake baking soda for cocaine

A truck-driving couple spent two months in jail and lost their jobs after Arkansas police mistook a plastic baggie full of baking soda for a hefty supply of cocaine.

Gale Griffin and her husband, Wendall Harvey, who haul explosives for the U.S. military, said they were detained for eight grueling weeks while they waited for a lab to overturn the in-the-field drug test that detected illegal drugs in their truck.

"We both didn't think we were going to get out at all," Griffin told KATV.

The couple’s saga started in May when guards at Fort Chaffee, an Army National Guard facility, performed a routine gate search on the truck the pair uses to ferry weapons for the military.

During the search, agents found several bags of baking soda in the big rig. Griffin, who suffers from a chronic upset stomach, said she buys the powder in bulk and takes it on the board in more portable baggies.

"I use baking soda for everything," she said.

While the couple explained the white substance was just harmless baking soda, police manning the gate were suspicious. They used a portable drug test — a $2 kit that is known for its high frequency of false positives — on the substance.

The test said the couple was carrying a controlled substance.

"They thought we had like 13.2 ounces of cocaine,” Griffin said. “The guy said I had over $300,000 in cocaine.”

Griffin and Harvey were held at a detention facility for 10 days before the court approved them a public defender. Weeks rolled by before they were assigned a specific attorney. Behind bars, they couldn’t contact their loved ones because they did not have their phone numbers memorized.

"I felt like I was somewhere that didn't feel like America. I can't call anybody, nobody knows where I'm at," Harvey said.

"I thought that I'd died and gone to hell,” Griffin told the TV station.

The couple’s lawyer begged prosecution to expedite the more accurate lab tests, which would prove that the mysterious white powder was only baking soda. Prosecution waited another four weeks before requesting the lab speed up the case.

On July 14 — two months after Griffin and Harvey were first arrested — the lab finally processed the substance. Officials confirmed it was only baking soda.

The truck drivers were released, but it took another month for them to get their impounded truck back. The drug suspicious led the military to deny them security clearances, effectively putting them out of work.

Griffin and Harvey said they’re worried that similar situations may happen to other innocent people, so long as police continue to use the sometimes-faulty tests.

"Two law-abiding ,working people, and there's no telling how many mistakes they've made,” Harvey said. “It's a mistake, but these mistakes happen quite often I think.”

While police admit that the test is not perfect — as many as 1 in 5 positive results are actually false positives — officials don’t have many alternatives. The $2 kit is one of the best portable tests on the market, officials said.

"We're not chemists, and we don't roll with a chemistry set in the back of a police car," Fort Chaffee Police Chief Chuck Bowen told KATV.

Ugh, Safariland...

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#5114: Nov 29th 2016 at 9:05:31 PM

Old news, but Swedish Police is still committed to solving the death of PM Palme with a new chief prosecutor appointed. Happened a few months ago.


http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2016/2/23/sweden-struggles-to-stop-radicalization-at-home.html

Also a bit related to terrorism since Sweden is also fighting radicals from fighting for ISIL. I don't know if it's up to date, but the Polisen has an officer qualified to help immigrants integrate to Swedish life.

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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#5115: Dec 4th 2016 at 5:04:23 AM

Juror says he can’t convict ex-cop in Walter Scott killing

So a cop can shoot a black man who's running from him and then plant evidence on him and could still walk all because of one fucking guy.

edited 4th Dec '16 5:06:12 AM by NoName999

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#5116: Dec 4th 2016 at 1:59:55 PM

The Bundy's walked to. There are hazards to having a jury make the decisions.

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#5117: Dec 4th 2016 at 2:16:00 PM

I mean, at least this case will go to a retrial most likely.

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#5118: Dec 4th 2016 at 3:40:56 PM

The trouble with jury trials these days is that you need to find twelve people who don't watch the news, so that they don't know Jack Squat about the case, or the issues involved in it. So basically, that means that the verdict is determined by a dozen ignorant idiots.

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#5119: Dec 4th 2016 at 6:01:54 PM

What's even more galling is that said juror apparently also said that he didn't want to tell the victim's friends and family that the cop who shot him was innocent either.

So he didn't want to be responsible for a guilty verdict and he's too chickenshit to face the victim's kin.

Disgusted, but not surprised
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#5120: Dec 5th 2016 at 2:57:00 PM

Aaaaaaand it's declared a mistrial! Yaaaaaaaaay! :(

Fuck that one juror.

And the worst part is now I'm worried. If another case of a cop or a white guy killing an unarmed black person, that the more scummy of the Trump supporters will lie about not following it just so they could be part of the jury and do the same this guy did.

It's a conspiracy theory, but with the way shit is hitting the fan now...

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#5121: Dec 6th 2016 at 6:06:10 AM

https://read01.com/M2GRoB.html

Some trivial stuff, these are patches used by various Chinese Public Security police forces in the major cities and towns.

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#5122: Dec 6th 2016 at 6:16:53 AM

[up]...What kind of website is this? There seems to be sexual imagery like panty shots in it by the side.

Also, what a coinkidink!

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#5123: Dec 6th 2016 at 7:18:33 AM

[up]Chinese (it's in Traditional Chinese) blogging site of sorts. Or it's something like 2leep, for those who still remember that. If the amount of health woo clickbait the front page has is reflective of the site contents.

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#5124: Dec 6th 2016 at 7:25:17 AM

I didn't see any of the panty shots but that was because those are ads and I use adblock.

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#5125: Dec 6th 2016 at 2:09:21 PM

Yeah the ads were responsible for that odd difference.

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