Ok it was mentioned there is not a thread for Law Enforcement Officers (LEO for short)and other similar jobs for discussion.
This is for discussing the actual jobs, ranks, training, culture, relations to military bodies that exist, and any other variety of topics that can arise pertaining to the World of Policing.
The Mod with the Migraine
Texas Sheriff speaks out against innocent-until-proven-guilty because
"my power comes from God."
Trying to take top spot in Texas, Hunt County Sheriff Randy Meeks wrote an op-ed in the local news paper that went like this:
Due to recent events, I can no longer be silent concerning what our country allows. It is amazing to me that the criminals who break into our homes and steal from us, those who sell drugs to our children, those who abuse innocent and defenseless children, those who rape our wives and daughters, those who commit cold-blooded murders are all innocent until proven guilty. Yet, law enforcement officers are found guilty as soon as it ‘appears’ that the officer has done something wrong. Way before the whole incident can be reviewed and the TRUTH obtained, that officer is found guilty and nobody cares what the facts are. This folks, is a travesty!
Guess where that authority comes from to law enforcement? It comes from God. Read Romans 13:1 in the Bible. And while you are at it, you folks in Ferguson, Baltimore, Arlington and here, take a Gander at Romans 13:2.
Personally, I am getting tired of these self-appointed God warriors polluting our social and cultural progress. Absolutely zero of these people received authority from God to act with impunity against civilians, under the delusional fog of whatever they think God wants them to do at the time. No more due process? Summary execution? Illegal search and Seizure? Doesn’t matter. God told him it was ok.
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
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Let's face it: How many of you people knew that an atheist can't be elected in Texas? For bonus points, guess how many states are like that.
And this is why I hate religion. Sure he may have a point, but what coward would use the "But God told me to shoot him for not doing what I said!" excuse? But religion is technically the inspiration of an lot of laws in the U.S. And it's dogma in Saudi Arabia. Cue the executions for whoever gets pulled over by overzealous patrolmen.
Answer no master, never the slave Carry your dreams down into the grave Every heart, like every soul, equal to break
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
Uh, I think it's more reasonable to hate people who insist on not separating the church/mosque/whatever with state and law.
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
So by this Sheriff's reasoning, police officers acting in God's name who abuse their power, wrongfully kill prisoners, etc. are committing Sacrilege. I wonder what the punishment is for that sort of thing?
The Mod with the Migraine
What's that? A police officer in the wrong? Clearly you're an agent of Satan sent here to lead the people into damnation. A true agent of the Lord will be by shortly to return you to hell.
Oklahoma? No thanks, I got kicked out of there once already.
NOT ANOTHER ONE! At least this one was caught, unlike the manhunt still ongoing in Illinois.
edited 7th Sep '15 7:47:28 AM by speedyboris
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
Hey, anyone remember that Louisiana cop who got kicked out for being a Klansman? The story just got weird.
Long story short, the FBI has confirmed that he infiltrated the Klan for them as an informant, and basically destroyed it in Louisiana. Then when he started going up against corruption in his police department after a few months of being an ideal officer, they took photos of his Klan-mole days out of context and used them to force him out.
What's precedent ever done for us?
That's not good.
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
Oh that is a twist. If the Feds have confirmed his story I hope he uses that to do something about that local corruption.
edited 9th Sep '15 8:27:30 PM by TuefelHundenIV
Who watches the watchmen?
The law in the night
Reality does manage to beat fiction in weirdness, plot twists and being interesting.
That is an interesting turn of events, the guy who was demonized turns out to be a paragon of justice.
Inter arma enim silent leges
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
So in more positive news to keep the gods from locking this thread for complaining about law enforcement. Body cameras, they work. Slap anyone who says otherwise.
edited 10th Sep '15 1:20:37 PM by RabidTanker
Answer no master, never the slave Carry your dreams down into the grave Every heart, like every soul, equal to break
Your link isn't working and I'm a little guarded about what you mean by conclusively saying "they work. Slap anyone who says otherwise" like it's not open for debate anymore.
EDIT: It's working now (and now it's not. That URL is very unstable.). Let's see this applied on a national level before we break out the champagne. I've heard this argument before.
Also, we need a more comprehensive study from an external crime reporting and LEO oversight organization. That chart and its data don't cite who or what organization specifically gathered the data, and it offers very little information on how and to what extent that data was collated. "Cooking the books" as it is called is a major problem in police corruption.
edited 10th Sep '15 1:44:17 PM by Aprilla
HGW XX/7
Movie material. Get Nick Cage on it.
Schild und Schwert der Partei
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
I do believe there are caveats to the cameras. Like the local PD not being so corrupt that officers cameras "malfunction" and some record material being "lost". I believe one of the deaths the guy choked for supposedly selling smokes the officers had cams but it didn't stop abuse.
The catch is you need the people in charge to be on board with fixing problems as they are found and an ability to take meaningful action.
Slate has a decent article on body cams
Here is a more detailed and more stable link then the San Diego 6 article
edited 10th Sep '15 4:26:01 PM by TuefelHundenIV
Who watches the watchmen?
Queen of Good Things, Honest
That's an Operator Error. It isn't so much a problem with the tool as it is with the people using it. The tool itself works fine.
When the people in charge of weeding out corruption are themselves corrupt, it doesn't matter what tools you give them to find corruption with.
edited 11th Sep '15 10:21:42 AM by TobiasDrake
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Blowout soon fellow Stalker
At some point you need a third party to come in and start purging people.
It's clear they either can't or are unwilling to fix their corruption issues by themselves.
Oh really when?
V
The People, or the Militias?
edited 11th Sep '15 10:44:31 AM by Greenmantle
Keep Rolling On
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
I was thinking that like the Feds or something should be doing the removing.
Oh really when?
Queen of Good Things, Honest
Yeah, feds. If it can't be fixed at a state level, a federal level is the next recourse.
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Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/13651263.On_run_serial_rapist_may_be_hiding_in_London__say_police/
There's a manhunt for this guy, although it's concluded recently that he may have left British territory.
"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
"Purge" is an ugly word.
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
So is "corruption".
The law in the night
"Purge corruption" sounds really nice though.
Inter arma enim silent leges
"We regret to inform you that your debit card has been locked"
And that marks my first scam call. Yayz.
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.