Ok it was mentioned there is not a thread for Law Enforcement Officers (LEO for short)and other similar jobs for discussion.
This is for discussing the actual jobs, ranks, training, culture, relations to military bodies that exist, and any other variety of topics that can arise pertaining to the World of Policing.
The law in the night
Releasing the commission's report to the public on Thursday night, South African President Jacob Zuma said, "The commission found that the police operation should not have taken place because of the defects in the [tactical] plan."
The commission, which was chaired by retired judge Ian Farlam, and appointed by the presidency in August 2012 to investigate the events in Marikana that left 44 people dead during a protracted wage strike, "found that it would have been impossible to disarm and disperse the strikers without significant bloodshed".
The president said that the commission also found the allegations against Cyril Ramaphosa, now deputy president of the country, for being responsible for the massacre to be "groundless".
Queen of Good Things, Honest
This is exactly what we were talking about when we discussed that demilitarization of police needs to happen in mindset more than equipment.
In war, this manner of dehumanization is done to make it easier for a soldier to perform his duty: that duty being to kill large numbers of enemy combatants. It is not a soldier's purpose to take away an enemy combatant's gun, give him a slap on the wrist, and tell him, "BAD!" It is his purpose to put bullets into that person until he stops moving.
This cannot be how police are allowed to operate. This must not be the mindset police are trained with. A police officer's responsibility is to ensure the safety and wellbeing of the population, and that is a purpose that is fundamentally irreconcilable with treating said population as enemy insurgents that need bullets put into them until they stop moving.
A soldier and a cop have very different job responsibilities that require very different approaches.
Also a great point. Cops don't need a military mindset. What they need is military discipline.
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I agree.
And now it's time for animal cruelty. When I first got this on my browser, I was scared out of my mind.
◊ But after reading it for a few minutes and installing MBAM, it turned out to be fake (obviously). I wonder why would an scammer rely on me thinking that the FBI rely on randomly fining through an third-party and warning people instead of arresting them?
HGW XX/7
The economics for these things are decent. I don't imagine it can cost very much to takeover some random porn site for a few hours, and if only five people fall for it, then the scammer is up $1000.
Reminds me of debt collection agencies: you buy 100 bad debts at pence in the pound, even if only one or two pay up then it's a big profit margin.
edited 26th Jun '15 2:16:31 PM by Achaemenid
Schild und Schwert der Partei
@Jacob Zuma: Ha ha ha ha. Pull the other one, you corrupt bastard. -_- Talk about mealy-mouthed, while avoiding an actual statement that could conceivably be misconstrued as, perhaps, an apology. <_<
edited 26th Jun '15 3:09:24 PM by Euodiachloris
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
Tobias: That pretty much in general sums up my thoughts on it.
Euo: You lost me there? Was that from an earlier article?
edited 26th Jun '15 6:36:38 PM by TuefelHundenIV
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The South African strike debacle that basically used tactics right out the apartheid-era, yes. <_<
edited 26th Jun '15 4:52:57 PM by Euodiachloris
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
Euo: Ahh. Yeah that was some nasty shit. Also reminds me of some of the US dirty days of strike breaking and corporations leveraging everything from private muscle to getting the US government to use troops.
Who watches the watchmen?
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Bellingcat on how the Metropolitan Police has been covering up for Murdoch's News International
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@krieger:you should x-post that in this thread https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13099779870A59620100&page=29
edited 27th Jun '15 1:11:04 PM by MABfan11
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The Wanderer
Stuck on you: Research shows fingerprint accuracy stays the same over time: "Fingerprints have been used by law enforcement and forensics experts to successfully identify people for more than 100 years. Though fingerprints are assumed to be infallible personal identifiers, there has been little scientific research to prove this claim to be true. As such, there have been repeated challenges to the admissibility of fingerprint evidence in courts of law.
'We wanted to answer the question that has plagued law enforcement and forensic science for decades: Is fingerprint pattern persistent over time?' said Anil Jain, University Distinguished Professor, computer science and engineering, at Michigan State University. 'We have now determined, with multilevel statistical modeling, that fingerprint recognition accuracy remains stable over time.'
Jain, along with his former Ph.D. student Soweon Yoon, who is now with the National Institute of Standards and Technology, used fingerprint records of 15,597 subjects apprehended multiple times by the Michigan State Police over a time span varying from five to 12 years.
The results show that fingerprint recognition accuracy doesn't change even as the time between two fingerprints being compared increases."
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Custody officer dies after attack at Blackfriars Crown Court
It is believed she is the first prisoner custody officer to die in the line of duty. A post-mortem examination will take place later and officers from the homicide and major crime command are investigating the case, the Met Police said.
BBC Home Affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said there would be three investigations into the incident, carried out by the Ministry of Justice, the Met Police and Serco. The Serco security guard was working with other team members preparing to escort a prisoner to a van parked inside the courtyard.
My understanding was that Lorraine Barwell's family agreed with doctors that she would not recover from her injuries so they switched off her life support system. The one comfort for her family is that she was an organ donor so her organs will be used to benefit others.
We have been looking back through the records and as far as we are aware there has been no reported incident of a custody officer working for Serco or any other private firm dying as a result of injuries sustained in their duties.
In terms of prison officers and custody staff in England and Wales the last recorded death was in 1991 - a skills instructor at Norwich prison, but of course there are incidents in Northern Ireland of prison officers who have died in the line of duty as well.
Reports of violence in prisons have been increasing and there have been some very serious incidents of staff in prisons being assaulted. This was a fear prison officers had that one day they would get the call that one of their colleagues had died as a result of injuries sustained in duty.
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/fatal-fire-japans-airtight-bullet-train-exposes-lapses-050959911.html
An interesting wakeup call to the National Police Agency.
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Police failure to respond may have left Lamara Bell injured in car crash for days
Police Scotland confirmed late on Wednesday that it was investigating an accident in which a man was pronounced dead at the scene and a woman was left in a critical condition in hospital.
John Yuill, 28, and his girlfriend Lamara Bell, 25, had been reported missing by friends after they were last seen in the early hours of Sunday morning. The couple, both from the Falkirk area, left the south shore of Loch Earn, Stirlingshire, following a weekend camping trip.
It has since emerged that a call was made to police late on Sunday morning reporting that a car had left the road on the M9 southbound near junction nine at Bannockburn. The report was not followed up at the time, a failure that has now been referred to Scotland’s police investigations and review commissioner (PIRC).
Bell’s family told BBC Scotland that they were angry and disgusted with the police’s handling of the case, and that she had been placed in a medically induced coma after suffering broken bones and damaged kidneys because of dehydration.
Police Scotland said it was called to the wooded area beside the motorway shortly before 10am on Wednesday, following a report that a Renault Clio had left the road. An NHS spokesperson on Thursday morning confirmed the female passenger was being cared for in the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital in Glasgow, where her condition was described as “very serious”. It is believed that her family is at her bedside.
Yuill, the co-owner of a caravan recycling business near Stirling and father of two young sons, was described by friends on Facebook as “a great guy and a brilliant dad”.
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A man in Bergen Country, New Jersey, got in a police chase that lasted around 20 minutes.
God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
Well this raises some eyebrows. Apprantly, you can be baked alive in a jail cell.
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Trustworthiness of an inmate's face may seal his fate: "The perceived trustworthiness of an inmate's face may determine the severity of the sentence he receives, according to new research using photos and sentencing data for inmates in the state of Florida. The research reveals that inmates whose faces were rated as low in trustworthiness by independent observers were more likely to have received the death sentence than inmates whose faces were perceived as more trustworthy, even when the inmates were later exonerated of the crime."
The Mod with the Migraine
A map showing all of the police killings so far this year has been posted online. Only three state have had 0 killings. Five states have had 25+, and those five make up almost half. Personally I was surprised at #4 and 5. And the year is only halfway over. And we have a lot of states who have higher death counts than some countries.
Now, the map does not say how many of these cases are considered justified, nor how many are under investigation. Just the flat numbers by state.
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God-Mayor of Sim-Kind
Why do I have an feeling that someone will use that map for shoehorning racism = police shooting into their arguments? You have to factor in street gangs, whether or not that the suspect was armed, and the type of call it was.
It is a point to investigate these things. Is it just population? (Obviously if you have a higher population in one area you're going to have higher numbers of many things due to just basic ratios) but that isn't everything.
Take similar population areas and see how it works. See if it's racism or see if it's a specific type of crime. Regardless, it's worth looking into and investigating if there are solutions to this.
I'm saying this both for the civilians and the police.
I don't want any people dying from cops and I don't want police having to live with the weight of having to kill people.
That should always be taken into consideration.
Especially since these incidents are not only on the rise, but in drastically higher numbers than other countries with similar issues and accessibility.
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Yeah, that's the thing about police shootings is that police resorting to lethal force isn't necessarily a bad thing. Keep in mind, police are supposed to use lethal force under certain conditions.
So, a high body count by the police doesn't necessarily equate to a corrupt or trigger-happy police. You have to take into account various other factors involved, as well.
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Huh, apparently some local LE Os almost had a shootout with an armed-to-the-teeth (after he was taken in the police said that he had a a number of rifles, shotguns, and homemade devices in the vehicle) Sovereign Citizen loon. They pulled him over for fake plates, and when they approached his vehicle he started yelling their usual "death to pigs" banter and drew a gun.
Normally I'd hear something like this end with a shooting but apparently the closest officer went to the window, punched it in, and wrestled around with the guy until he and his partner had him out and cuffed.
The law in the night
These other countries don't have the same crime problems nor the same population size and demographic issues as the US does.
To put in perspective a single Brazilian police officer killed more people on duty than people had been killed during police action in a whole US state.
edited 17th Jul '15 6:01:18 PM by AngelusNox
Inter arma enim silent leges
A Washington Post interview with the ex-BPD whistleblower.
What's precedent ever done for us?