The Law Enforcement Officer Thread

Sounds midwestern

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I'm confused, I thought cops could tell that an vehicle was insured by running the license plate?

Not that I know of. They don't have access to every insurance agencies data base last I checked and they don't track that themselves. As far as I can tell they have almost always had to check proof of insurance.

edited 20th May '15 8:17:50 PM by TuefelHundenIV

Ahh ok. Now it makes sense. Potholing would have helped.

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They do in Britain. When combined with an ANPR camera...

Yeah but that is Britain. It would be a bit trickier in the US. It would take a lot of cash and effort to tie in every local pd. Just where I live alone there are four separate PD's. Bellevue PD, Omaha PD, Ralston PD, and La Vista PD. They all have separate funding and man power pools.

Plus, that'd be more work for the police departments and insurance companies when they can simply put the onus on the automobile owner to keep a piece of paper in their car (USAA emails you a copy of your car insurance card like a month before the old one expires, I assume other auto companies do something similar).

Meanwhile in New Amsterdam...

Normally you would expect the offender to be the irate one, but this detective that pulled the driver over...◊

edited 21st May '15 4:49:17 PM by RabidTanker

I saw this story off of KUSI this morning.

I doubt if an ethnic racial differrence was an motivator as ACLU implied, but since when did failure/hesistating to provide I.D. = resisting arrest? I thought that meant actually running away from an investigation?

edited 29th May '15 9:48:25 AM by RabidTanker

Whether it's resisting arrest or not depends on how white you are

I watched the body cam video, and it looks like this started over an argument in the parking lot. Neither woman seemed particularly pleasant. The white woman was upset because she claimed the black woman was driving the wrong direction in the parking lane. She asserted that the black woman flipped out, started screamed at her, and punched her window. There is no visible damage, however, so the officer tells her there's nothing she can pursue in terms of legal action, and goes to get the black woman's name so he can document the incident being responded to; a pretty standard, "I went out here and this is what happened."

The black woman claims that she was not driving the wrong direction because she's seen other people do it all the time - which, I'll note, is not mutually exclusive with the white woman's claim that you're not actually supposed to drive that direction in that parking lane. She testifies that the white woman was honking belligerently and screaming at her. The trouble begins when the officer asks for her name.

The black woman insists she doesn't have to tell him her name. He insists she does. She starts to make a phone call, telling him that she's going to verify whether she has to give him her name. He keeps insisting, and she starts walking away from him. He walks after her and grabs her arm to keep her there, and she starts wrestling and screaming, "Don't you TOUCH me! DON'T YOU TOUCH ME!!!" At that point, more officers try to restrain her and get handcuffs on her.

It's hard to make out what happens next in the altercation; the body cam slams into the ground, implying that the officer has been forced face-down onto the ground, then he gets back up and we see the black woman, still screaming and wrestling, land on her stomach as 2-3 officers struggle to force her arms behind her back and put on the handcuffs, a task that seems to be giving them a great deal of difficulty - not surprising, at 8 months pregnant it is REALLY HARD to put your arms behind your back like that.

I didn't see what happened after that because I was in the bathroom and needed to get back to work, but that seemed to cover the events in the article. It wasn't quite as simple as, "She wouldn't show him her ID, so the cops bodychecked her into the pavement."

edited 29th May '15 10:34:05 AM by TobiasDrake

If you are uncertain if you have to report your name to the cops,

1) Stand still.

2) Call a lawyer, and tell the officer you are calling a lawyer. If the first one doesn't answer, keep googling. Or tell the officer you are contacting your attorney and call a friend to contact a lawyer for you if you don't have a smart phone.

3) Don't touch the cops and do not leave. If you want to walk away for some distance tell the officer "I am going to go sit on that bench/stand there whatever but keep them in your line of sight and stay visable to them. Do not move until they acknowledge your intent.

4) I don't know of any state that allows you to refuse to tell an officer your name if the i tent is that they are writing a report. But it could be possible. Regardless, she did not need to act like that.

I also noticed the officers seemed to be as confused by this escalation as the rest of us.

While they were wrestling with her to try and get the handcuffs on her, one of them kept asking, "Why are you resisting?!"

Yeah, that was weird...

Man wearing pig mask and toy bobby's helmet arrested on suspicion of impersonating a police officer

It's... it's not... it's not the... the most elegant charge... they could have pressed... under... under the circumstances.

Please excuse me.

edited 30th May '15 11:37:31 AM by TheHandle

PTU officers in Singapore opened fire on a hostile vehicle approaching the Shangri-La hotel in downtown Singapore.

edited 30th May '15 11:20:54 PM by Ominae

Kind of relevant to the thread?

A while ago I was walking on a crosswalk during green light. Then I saw a motorcycle coming at me. I thought it was going to stop, but then it showed no sign of slowing down. Startled, I stepped back, but that was also the direction the motorcyle tried to steer away. I wasn't hit, but it was a close call and the biker cursed a whole lot at me. I told him that I was sorry and tried to walk away. Then he turned back, drove back at me to stare at my face to spit all those curses (in involved my country's version of the MF word many times).

So I was pretty pissed off. I'm pretty sure I did nothing wrong here. If anything else, if he hit me I could have sued his pants off. So I stood tall, looked at the man straight in the eyes...

...and said I was sorry, and I would be more careful next time. Then I walked away.

Hey, nobody got into a fight.

I have a feeling that if I get robbed, I would be able to successfully take off my watch, wallet, keys, and hand them over.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/corpse-left-suitcase-busy-tokyo-station-month-052442163.html

Police found a corpse packed in a suitcase after a month by JR staff at the Tokyo Station.

Apparently the person in question was...

-sunglasses on-

...all suited up.

A close relative probably found her dead in her home, and in a panic in which he/she thought "What would people think!?" decided to cover the death up. Which happens quite a bit over there.

There are even cases where old people have been found dead months after death in their homes, and nobody noticed. The children simply had cut all connections with their parents and after that virtually nobody notices them passing away, since barging into other peoples business is very much taboo.

http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2015/05/31/womans-body-found-in-locker-at-tokyo-station/

Update on that case. The corpse, which is a woman, didn't have any signs of external wounds inflicted on it. This is according to the Tokyo Metropolitan Police.

Investigation is still ongoing.

Terminus' hypothesis seems really plausible now...

Only update I got according to the BBC is that the corpse was folded up.

Yeah, I feel like throwing up.