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Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 15th 2023 at 11:35:01 AM
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That's not all. An ATT report has mentioned how you were on a crusade and attacked anyone with a negative view of RWBY, and this extends offsite.
Though we can only control any issues onsite, we have zero tolerance for this behavior.
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~Knightofbalance: In addition, even without the off-site harassment issue this is now your second suspension for edit warring. I hope you have a damn good reason why we should extend you one of our extremely rare third chances.
"Yup. That tasted purple."
Considering the crap this site has apparently pulled (as in, pushing political agendas and CENSORSHIP) and the fact that the real reason I'm being banned is because I disagree with people: I'm not taking any chances with you people.
Just know your site's gonna die off.
We're in agreement then. Goodbye.
Let me get this straight.
Neko Hybrid, again, posts misleading, and even incorrect events on the Ranma One Half page.
Basically what they do is take some events that happen and some that happen in an Adaptation of the work. They then add in the most negative spin possible. They will then misinterpret these events, toss in some false statements (but blended in with the real events to make them more believable at a glance) and misapply tropes to make one particular character they don't like look worse.
A misuse of the Minor Insult Meltdown trope posted as an "example" on the page is a good example of this. It takes an event that does happen, throws on some very negative sounding phrasing over the top of it that doesn't apply to the character. They then list it as an example of a trope that sounds kind of right just looking at the trope name. But if you look at the trope page you see that the listed trope does not actually apply to the event they list it as an example of. They then continuously defend this by simply saying "this happened" and ignoring all the other misleading context they apply to it.
I attempt to engage with them with P Ms and posts in the discussion page. I even explained, in detail, how some of their examples didn't apply and where they could apply others. They refuse to even begin to engage in any actual productive discussion, saying they will not "take me seriously." Then adds back the incorrect example. Why am I the one being suspended?
What am I supposed to do with somebody who won't engage in good faith? They posts up things that don't apply, but correcting them is an Edit War?
edited 28th Mar '18 1:35:35 AM by tristan
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You have once again been deleting examples calling them fanon, even those that have been cited as factual.
Something is not sticking since you last dropped by here.
As for Neko, I'm asking them right now to present a piece of evidence to me that those "fanon" moments actually happened.
edited 28th Mar '18 7:38:43 AM by Berrenta
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OK, it's time to actually dive into some elements of the history the manga has on the internet.
Ranma One Half has a ton of fanon, and the character Akane in particular has a ton of negative fanon. I'm positive that Ron the Death Eater would have her as the Trope Namer if this site came about earlier.
I'll go back to the Minor Insult Meltdown example
"Nothing short of complete and utter praise will please Akane especially when it comes to her cooking."
This line in particular is the line I called "fanon" over Neko Hybrid's edit. Because it is. It's not an uncommon fanon trope in Ranma One Half Fanfic to give Akane this character trait, especially if we're going by the extensive negative Fanon Akane.
"For example when she first cooked for him Ranma took one bite and tried to just continue training instead of insulting it (she then tried her own food, said it was bad, and threw a rock at him)."
Here is the next part, it is half way factual. But Akane did not throw the rock at Ranma, she threw it at nobody. In the middle of a forest. When she thought she was alone. In what world does that count as a "meltdown" in the first place? But I digress, reading the trope page that does not fit this event anyways. Neko Hybrid did change the wording to match the events, but that really doesn't change the core facts of a false negative trait thrown on top and applying the event to a trope that doesn't actually apply.
I only did the "delete and call this fanon" thing after I tried to communicate with Neko Hybrid.
edited 28th Mar '18 8:53:02 AM by tristan
Did I make another edit war? I only remember receiving a message regarding that any edit I make should come with a edit summary. I did this with Allen Walker's character by mentioning every volume from the manga in the edit and adding far more context to Tidus' character. I apologize if my edits went too far by I'm not able to remember every single trope when I'm editing resulting in me making multiple edits. The rules that there is a time limit to make an edit just gives me writer's block so I have no idea how many tropes I can add in a single edit. I apologize for whatever misbehaviour I had. I don't think I can add anything more to Tidus' section, so I'll just focus in Allen if I get unsuspended. Cheers.
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Mainly, your ban this time concerns grammar, formatting, and zero context examples.
tristan, I will get back to you once Neko responds to my PM. If Neko presents evidence that at least one example you deleted actually happened in canon, then you may be in for a rough ride. If the evidence is proven to be false, they will be called in. Whatever evidence they present will be cleared with the staff first. she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report
Sorry if it's about grammar there is nothing I can do to fix it since English isn't my first language. I understand your issues with it, but I don't understand how having grammar issues force a ban, especially with the fact I was trying to add more context and edit summaries to what I added.
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~tristan: Neko wrote back with manga pages that provided evidence of Sore Loser, one of the tropes you deleted from the example list and called false/fanon. Here's one of them
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Now you got some explaining to do.
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Lost in Space
Boatman, we require proficient English to edit our site. Regardless of what you wish to contribute, it's not worthwhile if other users have to keep fixing your mistakes. This applies equally to everyone regardless of whether English is their primary language.
Some non-native English speakers have found themselves contributing to the translations project.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
Hello. I just wanted to say I feel better now, and think I can edit again without problems. I received some wonderful news from my mom, and I talked a bit with my doctor about it.
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Well, if I am mistreated here just because I'm not English native, then don't unban me. I am starting to think Wikipedia is a better site since they at least tag pages that need to have better grammar rather than banning editors with good faith.
I got suspended recently due to getting into an edit war, and now I can't edit anymore.
I did not mean any harm and I want to be able to edit again, anytime, and any page. So please un-ban me and un-suspend me now. I'm not very patient and I cannot wait for a long time, so un-suspending me today would be very nice.
I'm a very nice user and I never mean any harm to any person so there is no reason for me to be banned or suspended.
edited 28th Mar '18 11:46:36 PM by Vos
Hi
~Vos: You Edit Warred on a page, which you outright admit. That's plenty of reason to suspend you from editing, and your glib dismissal of this fact leaves me, for one, disinclined to change that.
To be honest, I do enjoy editing pages once in a while, but I promise not to get into an edit war ever again. I have learned my lesson. I would like to be un-suspended please. 
For example,This page is one of my favorite pages to edit, and I did not start any edit wars here and my edits were all civil.
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Also, Vos, you gave a concerning PM to the other party that you felt very personal about the subject. Personal views don't mesh well with YMMV. Also, what makes a YMMV example valid is more than just a select few people.
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Okay, then I won't put any personal views on a YMMV or anything else then. I now have learned my lesson.
I just want you to un-suspend me now so that I can be able to edit anything again any time without getting into any more edit wars no more. I never come to this site very often as much as I used to, just once in a while. If you have any thoughts or advice on what I can and cannot do when it comes to editing something, then that would be great. I am willing to follow site rules, like I usually do.
It would be great if any of you moderators would un-suspend me today, because I am not patient. I don't like being suspended or worse. I have registered on this website since 2013 and I never got suspended since then, as I only got suspended a day ago. I really want to be un-suspended now, please. I want to be seen as a good person and not a troll or someone untrustworthy. I do not want to be someone who is banned or suspended on a website. I want to keep my rep good.
Now I can't use the private messaging system now that it is turned off. Please turn it back on for me. I don't want to be banned. Okay?
Please un-suspend me and please turn the private messaging system back on for me. I really have enjoyed browsing this website and I just don't want to lose any privileges and such on it.
I will follow the rules from now on.
I promise not to repeat the same mistakes ever again. Okay. Just un-suspend me and turn on the private messaging system back on.
~Vos: You are in no position to be making demands of us right now. Especially when you attempt to stoke up drama against another user like you did earlier today by attempting to continue your spat on the forums.
"Yup. That tasted purple."
I apologize that I won't write against another user like that again. I have learned my lesson, and I won't repeat that mistake ever again.
I am feeling very depressed that this is happening to me right now just because of a mistake I made. I don't want to start any drama, or cause any drama. I just want to enjoy this site in peace.
Please give me my privileges back. I don't want to be banned. I enjoyed this site.
I promise that I won't do it again.
I have like new messages in my PM inbox, yet I still get "Sorry, the PM system has been turned off for you." Now I can't read them. This blows!![[tdown]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_down_emoticon_3571.png "[thumb down]"){kind=small}
Please turn it on for me and Un-suspend me, please.
I have learned my lesson and I PROMISE to respect other users and not write any call out posts on anyone ever again. I am very sorry. I was upset, but I promise not to be upset ever again.
Tell this user that I apologize for everything I have said. I won't do it again.
Birdygamer
I'm afraid I don't know what to do now?
1. It's mostly about things outside of the show. It talks about Jaune being a base breaker, Pyrrha's death being controversial ect. While this might be fine on a YMMV tab (where her death is located): Stuffed In The Fridge is not a YMMV trope. And nothing else in the examples is written like this so there's no exceptions.
2. The entry is misleading. Although the entry says Pyrrha was killed to emotionally devastate Ruby, the actual event shows that Cinder didn't even know Ruby was there. The only one who would be intending to emotionally traumatize Ruby would eb the creators and that just comes with the territory.
3. The entry is highly opinionated. Between the link to the They Wasted A Perfectly Good Character page, bring up Jaune as a Basebreaker and the overall tone: The entry is made in order to associate an event someone did not like to a trope that people have a negative connotation towards, akin to how the Mary Sue label is misused.
4. The example doesn't fit properly. The key components of the trope Stuffed into the Fridge are (as I assume) follows: A. The person must be killed in a horrorific manner. B. their body must be displayed. C. It's done by the villain to harm some D. It must be intentionally seen by the person made to suffer and E. They are the only one affected. The only one that works is A and even that is questionable as we never seen Pyrrha scream in pain or anything and she just turns to ash. B, doesn't work because the body was never displayed (the exact opposite happened). C Doesn't work because as recent episodes show, Cinder didn't even know who Jaune was and didn't know Ruby was there. D. Ruby unintentionally saw it (as shown by Cinder's shocked expression) and E. is contradicted by a character named Qrow showing guilt over Pyrrha's death.
5. Examples Are Not Arguable The fact that the trope is argued in the entry itself is an example of arguing the trope should be on the page, trying to make a case for something that should be naturally there. A case like the Spider Man entry with Gwen is one thing but this is not something that should be allowed outside of discussion.
Sorry about the above: I forget how this stuff works sometimes.