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Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 15th 2023 at 11:35:01 AM

td644 td644 from n/a Since: Mar, 2011
td644
#1376: Jul 31st 2012 at 3:33:02 AM

OK no big deal. I was just curious as to why i was suspended. As i said i didn't edit much anyway. So as long as i can still read the pages and go about my business. I don't care one way or another.

edited 31st Jul '12 3:41:27 AM by td644

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Shizu from New Jersey Since: Jan, 2012
#1377: Jul 31st 2012 at 8:02:39 AM

What did I do this time? I haven't made many recent edits, so I'm rather confused.

Deadbeatloser22 MOD from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#1378: Jul 31st 2012 at 8:04:29 AM

@ Shizu: Un-namespacing links to Namespaced pages and Word Cruft.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Shizu from New Jersey Since: Jan, 2012
#1379: Jul 31st 2012 at 8:06:08 AM

Still don't understand how I've wordcrufted; what examples am I guilty of?

edited 31st Jul '12 8:06:55 AM by Shizu

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#1380: Jul 31st 2012 at 8:29:00 AM

NightmareFuel.Final Fantasy X

** Don't forget Geosgaeno, who terrorized Tidus at the beginning of the game and nearly succeeded in swallowing him.

"Don't forget" is Word Cruft. Use of bullet points is incorrect. Each example takes a separate bullet.

TearJerker.Final Fantasy X 2

* The Sad ending. Dear lord.

Zero Context Example. Dear lord is Word Cruft.

Your un-namespacing is also causing a lot of trouble, especially since people slave away hours to namespace works. You also never leave edit reasons, making what you're doing look really confusing.

edited 31st Jul '12 8:29:14 AM by lu127

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
Shizu from New Jersey Since: Jan, 2012
#1381: Jul 31st 2012 at 8:34:23 AM

Oh, okay. How/where do you leave edit reasons? I guess I still have some stuff to go over. Really sorry I've been so stupid with all this.

edited 31st Jul '12 8:35:41 AM by Shizu

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#1382: Jul 31st 2012 at 8:41:20 AM

Underneath the edit field, there is a small rectangular box that says: Edit reason (optional):. You can leave an edit reason there to let others know what you're doing.

Take a good look at the Tips Worksheet to understand what you're doing and look over Text-Formatting Rules. Then we can let you edit again.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
Machini Since: Nov, 2011
#1383: Jul 31st 2012 at 9:51:16 AM

@Fighteer: Well, again, I exaggerated it.

ccoa MOD Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#1384: Jul 31st 2012 at 10:06:53 AM

@Dragon Quest Z: The general feeling in the mod forum seems to be that you've used up all your chances. Sorry, looks like the workshop ban is permanent.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#1385: Jul 31st 2012 at 11:01:50 AM

Well I'm still going to watch my behavior on the rest of the site, and have been, and hoping the situation with me might change eventually.

This isn't just to help contribute to those forums again, but to also make sure I don't act like that ever again.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
Ranonames Since: Jul, 2012
#1386: Jul 31st 2012 at 4:56:31 PM

I removed some false information about Bowling for Columbine on the Documentary of Lies page. I explained why I did so on the discussion page. However when I came back I discovered that the information had been re-added and I was banned again.

The reason given for this was that a troper called Mr Death did not believe it and accused me of believing that "The film isn't lying, because the film said it isn't." However this is not true and everything I listed can be verified.

  • Here is the bank footage ware you can clearly see her saying they keep the guns at the bank
  • For the Horton controversy two ads were shown one was the revolving door prison ad made by the Bush campaign the other was the Horton ad which was by the National Security Political Action Committee. This PAC (which did claim to be independent) was coordinating with the Bush campaign you can read more about it here (it really is a fascinating story)
  • The claims being made about the cartoon and the Heston montage did not correspond to what was actually shown in the movie.
  • The information presented for shooting death (not just homicides) in all the countries included the police and people claiming self defense.
  • Most of the other things listed they admitted were not in the movie but claim they could be implied from it.

I am not a big Micheal Moore fan and there were some things he did get wrong (like claiming that the NRA scheduled there meeting in Colorado after Columbine when they had done it before). The movie was mostly accurate in its information and douse not belong on this page. Like animeg3282 said in this thread this whole page needs to be cleaned up.

I do not have any agenda besides making sure this wiki is accurate. Per your request, I have not added new information since the ban was lifted last time (the person I got to check my work will not respond to me and appears to have left the wiki). I have only been cleaning up false information and trying to clarify issues for people. Please un-ban me again so I can have a conversation with Mr. Death on the discussion page and see the source of his information.

lu127 MOD Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#1387: Jul 31st 2012 at 5:00:37 PM

Your ban was never lifted. The reason you are banned is not because of that edit. It is because you created a second account to edit the wiki while your first account had been suspended.

We never said your ban had been lifted. We said you would have to take your edits through the English thread, and if we saw enough improvement, we would lift it. You are not allowed to make a second account to bypass your ban.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
Ranonames Since: Jul, 2012
#1388: Jul 31st 2012 at 5:18:19 PM

I did not create a new account. When I came back from Arkansas I discovered I was no longer banned and could edit from the account on my computer. However I did not do that because I was told not to post new content unless I ran it by somebody first. I made a deal with a troper called Dark Confidant to do that but he appears to have disappeared since then so I have not posted any new content. If I was trying to create a second account to get around a ban why would I use the exact same and not something like phelpfan which could not be traced to me.

lu127 MOD Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#1389: Jul 31st 2012 at 5:25:30 PM

Yes, you did create a new account.

Your account was called Ranonamis, not Ranonames. Ranonamis has a wiki ban, as I can clearly see on the file. In fact, here is a post you made under that name. Here is another. I can also see the age of Ranonames, the account you're using to post right now. It is only 12 days old. You've been on the wiki longer than that. Our last conversation was more than 12 days ago. So, this is ample proof you do not even remember the name of your account, and made another account while trying to access your old one.

Second, if the person you "made a deal with" has left, you are expected to post in the English thread and find help from someone else.

Third, an editing suspension means you should not be editing. Period. It does not matter whether you edit new material, or simply remove something. When you have an edit ban, you are not allowed to edit anything.

edited 31st Jul '12 5:29:11 PM by lu127

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
HenryT Henry T from Venezuela Since: May, 2012
#1390: Jul 31st 2012 at 6:41:54 PM

Um... i have a problem whit the Cosmic Plaything Page. In the comics books part, the fourth example lacks of identification (i think its Deadpool). Can you solve this out?

Hobby writter. only because im bored.
redjirachi Since: Aug, 2010
#1391: Aug 1st 2012 at 6:56:07 PM

Alright, I see. I shouldn't just chat/debate/be casual when I'm editing non-WMG and Discussion pages.

Fighteer MOD Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#1392: Aug 1st 2012 at 7:14:00 PM

Second time, same exact problem, redjirachi. Did you really not get the message back in June? I had to revert nearly every one of your edits to Characters.Star Wars.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
redjirachi Since: Aug, 2010
#1393: Aug 1st 2012 at 11:59:30 PM

I must not have realised that exactly what I typed qualified as said natter. Note: "Whether" and debating should not be done there

Krystoff Since: Jun, 2012
#1394: Aug 2nd 2012 at 2:21:40 PM

Okay, so what was the final decision about me? Trust me please. You can give me one more chance. I understand my mistakes.

Deadbeatloser22 MOD from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#1395: Aug 2nd 2012 at 3:54:45 PM

I'm pretty sure we don't give third chances.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
BestOf MOD FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
#1396: Aug 2nd 2012 at 4:06:34 PM

We do, but it's very rare.

I don't intend to make the call in this case; I just wanted to mention that we don't have a standing policy against 3rd chances in principle, but plausible scenarios that would end with us giving a third chance are very rare.

edited 2nd Aug '12 4:06:40 PM by BestOf

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
Krystoff Since: Jun, 2012
#1397: Aug 2nd 2012 at 4:36:49 PM

Except that it is my second chance. Not third. Or am I wrong?

I don't recall ever being banned before.

edited 2nd Aug '12 4:44:59 PM by Krystoff

BestOf MOD FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
#1398: Aug 2nd 2012 at 4:50:05 PM

If you've been banned once and the ban was lifted, you're on your second chance. The first one was before you got banned. (You have the chance to edit and post once you've made an account.)

So if we ban you twice, that means you've used up two chances already.

That was just to clarify this in general, 'cause people have got it wrong before.

I forgot to mention that you've been banned exactly once, so you're correct.

Oh, and I believe Deadbeat was responding to the post above you: #1393.

edited 2nd Aug '12 4:53:11 PM by BestOf

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
LightPhaser from Is This Just Fantasy Zone Since: Jan, 2012
#1400: Aug 2nd 2012 at 6:20:18 PM

Can I repeal for my PM ban here?

edited 2nd Aug '12 6:20:24 PM by LightPhaser


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