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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#43751: Aug 29th 2015 at 4:37:07 PM

List of Grand Order craft essences. Which I gather are Servant-buffing cards.

Does anyone recognize the Dark Skinned Blond on Primeval Magic?

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#43752: Aug 29th 2015 at 4:41:50 PM

Isn't that Caster master as he was shown in UBW anime?

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#43753: Aug 29th 2015 at 4:44:58 PM

Ah, looks like. Thanks, I hadn't gotten to watching that yet.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#43754: Aug 29th 2015 at 4:51:09 PM

Atram Galiast, Medea's first Master and professional murder victim.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#43755: Aug 29th 2015 at 4:52:50 PM

The guy who, for the past ten or so years, we only knew was a douchebag and nothing else.

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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#43756: Aug 29th 2015 at 4:53:57 PM

Now we know he's a high-tech douchebag!

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#43757: Aug 29th 2015 at 6:15:08 PM

Yes, Bazett might do well in an actual Grail War. Without infinite continues, though, she'd almost certainly be killed by the first Servant she went up against. However, she's close enough to their ability level to actually matter in a fight and she counters mages pretty well, so she could wreck the other Masters.

Medea's first Master was originally just described as a coward who looked down on and envied Medea at the same time. The anime changed that, which I felt was one of the few good additions in the anime.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#43758: Aug 29th 2015 at 6:31:25 PM

Masters aren't supposed to fight Servants, though. And she'd likely get only one free use of Fragarach before the other combatants would start figuring out countermeasures.

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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#43759: Aug 29th 2015 at 6:33:06 PM

[up][up] Why do you think it was a good change?

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#43761: Aug 29th 2015 at 7:47:10 PM

I don't even.

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#43762: Aug 29th 2015 at 7:54:28 PM

My personal favourite wtf picture is Kirei and Kiritsugu wearing Senketsu and Junketsu.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#43764: Aug 29th 2015 at 10:16:20 PM

asterism: She's good enough in melee to not die instantly, which means she's a combatant who needs to be watched. Fragarach is a nice bonus, though.

Saiga: What we had before sounded pretty dull. It also made Medea into an actual sympathetic not totally evil character instead of the story just telling us she was one. Plus, it really contrasted all the stupid Ilya crap. I hated those scenes.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#43765: Aug 30th 2015 at 4:17:19 AM

諸天は主の栄光に。大空は御手の業に
昼は言葉を伝え、夜は知識を告げる
話すことも語ることもなく、声すらも聞こえないのに
暖かな光は遍く全地に、果ての果てまで届いて
天の果てから上って、天の果てまで巡る
我が心は我が内側で熱し、思い続けるほどに燃ゆる
我が終わりは此処に。我が命数を此処に。我が命の儚さを此処に
我が生は無に等しく、影のように彷徨い歩く
我が弓は頼めず、我が剣もまた我を救えず
残された唯一つの物を以て、彼の歩みを守らせ給え
主よ、この身を委ねます―
L'espoir vient apres desespoir
Jeanne's poem when she activates La Pucelle. From the mangling I got from Google Translate, it appears to be a prayer of sorts.

edited 30th Aug '15 4:17:45 AM by asterism

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#43766: Aug 30th 2015 at 7:54:25 AM

Uhg. To translate or not to translate....

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#43767: Aug 30th 2015 at 7:56:51 AM

Well, the thing with Bazett's performances is it's a mistake to judge Prisma Ilya mechanics based on the actual Grail War mechanics. Regardless of what one may think about the loli content, tone matters, et al, which are their own sets of issues, the Prisma Ilya 'mechanics' are mostly those of a token Magical Girl series using the esthetics of actual Fate Stay Night mechanics.

Krika Since: Dec, 2010
#43768: Aug 30th 2015 at 9:49:27 AM

What are the requirements for qualifying for Ruler, and can I get sources on it? I'm trying to win an argument, and you all are more knowledgeable than I.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#43769: Aug 30th 2015 at 10:13:41 AM

Impartiality, and no desire to win the Grail for yourself. That Amakusa, who does want the Grail, was summoned can probably be blamed on his improper summoning and/or the Einzbern penchant for fuckuppery.

You don't have to be a saint, but it helps. GO demonstrates that saints can be other classes, and I think it said somewhere that in a normal war Jeanne would be a Saber.

edited 30th Aug '15 10:15:21 AM by asterism

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Krika Since: Dec, 2010
#43770: Aug 30th 2015 at 10:15:30 AM

Isn't there a "must be a Christian Saint" clause?

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#43771: Aug 30th 2015 at 10:22:46 AM

Not explicitly, I think. Though saints tend to be impartial.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#43772: Aug 30th 2015 at 11:48:16 AM

No, Nasu just thinks saints and impartiality are linked. Oh, and by saint he doesn't literally mean someone canonized by the church but rather just an influential religious figure or something like that.

Amakusa decided he wanted the Grail later is all.

edited 30th Aug '15 11:49:04 AM by Arha

Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#43773: Aug 30th 2015 at 7:21:58 PM

@Arha I didn't even find her slightly sympathetic for that. Until they give a good reason as to why she cares about Kuzuki I don't see anything sympathetic in her character.

I'm not saying I disliked those scenes but they didn't feel like anything new to me.

edited 30th Aug '15 7:22:15 PM by Saiga

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#43774: Aug 30th 2015 at 10:36:04 PM

New Medea scenes showed her Master being more of a dick then betraying her first while the original scenes were just her killing him because she was basically bored and he was kind of annoying. She didn't even want the Grail, she just didn't like the guy. That's just plain murder. The scenes were a bit heavy handed but compared to the Ilya crap and FZ tie ins it was pretty good.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#43775: Aug 31st 2015 at 8:45:41 AM

Hi guys, I'm also in this thread :V

Why didn't you like the extra scenes Arha?

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