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Except she wasn't cowering from what I remember. It just looked like she was asking him to stop so she could figure out what she did to displease him.

After typing that, it just occurred to me just how many good metaphors there are with the fembots, but Tats just keeps screwing it up.

And it just occurred to me that while stupid for anyone else, selling mass-produced rape victims (which would require at least sentience^note otherwise there's no rape, and sapience would be overkill and repel some potential customers) might actually be a genius plan for the Devil. People can do a lot of bad things when they think themselves absolved of responsibility, and this could result in mass souls for him below...

edited 18th May '15 12:29:53 AM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."

I've long had the theory that the whole patriarchy thing is nothing personal. Power corrupts, and what's a more efficient way of putting as many people in at least some position of power than making it so that half the population of earth is expected to be subservient to the other half?

Were he not andromorphic I would think he flipped a coin.

Is that third panel supposed to imply that fangirl is a lesbian as well?

... WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT??? Of course the Devil having his scientists make Fembots capable of sentience or even outright sapience while imposing Restraining Bolts via hardcoded programming be a perfectly sensible from both a Watsonian and Doylist POV: Clients would be committing sins aplently without even realizing it, and that plus the suffering of the Fembots (which obviously must be suppressed by the programming to the point that they may not even be consciously aware of it!) feeds back into his power just as a Deal with the Devil does.

Stole it right from the tip of my tongue. I mean, that figurine? It's made in the likeness of her pre-Feminism self. You'd think after being converted by her idol to The Cause, she'd throw out all such stuff to honor her idol's choice.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

As for the Fembots. I'd still like to point out that Devilcorp has A) Shown itself to be too incompetent and B) Shown itself to be pragmatic.

Profits Over Pussy. I get the feeling that they just aren't genuinely interested in sin with their toys and rather would just make profits off that. They got Booth Girls for sin. I mean Devilcorp also makes a ton of other products that don't seem to relate to sin. Like Miko's Wii.

And as for Miko being a fangirl now, what's with the pre feminism Monique Tatsuyda?

edited 18th May '15 6:48:51 AM by EchoingSilence

That actually doesn't really make anything better, because you still own pets, and people do plenty of degrading things to their pets (like dress them up in ridiculous little Christmas sweaters).

But fucking them exposes you to animal abuse cases.

Edit: Dismantling them, too, often.

edited 18th May '15 8:01:23 AM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."

I like to think their sapience is a Sisterhood thing. They were just mass produced machines beforehand with no form of independent thought until the Sisterhood came about.

But the one who was dismantled was untouched by the Sisterhood.

It's possible they weren't sentient when Tats first imagined them, and he Retconned it in later.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."

Well, not so much "retconned" as "swept under the rug". He's yet to explain how things like them completely freezing like a statue in absence of any remote-control commands squares up with the whole "independent thought" thing.

Guys, guys. There is a really simple explanation for all of this: Tats is a really inconsistent writer and has demonstrated so in the past.

Through the eyes I have known you.

Which leads to all interpretations being true.

And also very good point.

It's weird. We've all managed to come up with a rather interesting and coherent plot in about a day, whereas Tats hasn't managed to really do crap with a number of years now.

... Maybe inconsistency is an actual trait of the Sinfestverse!

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

Doesn't hiding a sin in some kind of Trojan fembot kind of defeat the purpose of punishing people for committing them? Christianity is pretty big on having free will and choosing to give your love to god or deny following him and face consequences for it. Both cases are conscious choices.

That's true. The religious definition of sin (at least, according to Christianity) is deliberately choosing to do something evil.

As for me, I don't really buy into the theory of the Fembots being sentient and just having it locked with a Restraining Bolt. It's not really something that's been hinted at, and the scenario in which all of the Fembots are sentient and being controlled and sold as sex slaves seems extremely dark for Tats. He can get serious at times, but I doubt he would go that far.

On a side note, I can't help but remember how supporters of Tats would argue that Slick was putting Monique on a pedestal and had an unrealistically high opinion of her. I honestly wonder what they think of Miko by now.

I'm a soldier of justice sent by nature itself!

If what I've seen from other SJ Ws, their response is most likely something along the lines of, "It's okay when WE do it!".

They are mostly all going awwwwww... and melting at adorablenes of it aparently. Also it is good point, but unfortunately... Tatsuya have taken very... liberal view on christianity... as if he have vague idea what is it about. Very vague and not all that correct. For example the whole dealing with Devil thing... Let's look at Slick shall we? The very moment he sold his soul(or very soon like next morning) he should get Slick mansion, girlfriend/harem, sport car and riches(I am guessing according to comic where devil tried win slick back)... It is actually the whole point of deal with devil, you do it to get something easy and quickly... are you monk that need write Bible overnight? Call devil. Do you need new bridge? Call devil. Do you want power and riches? Call devil.(Mind you... getting rich quickly in Dark Ages was enough to get you nice Witch trial)... etc. You could say, the point of evil was... that it was easy. You didn't come to dark side to not get cookies. You simply choose to succumb and the only catch was... that after you died your soul went to hell.

That's a not exactly a trait limited to any one group of humans.

http://www.mansionofe.com

Yeah but it's different when MY group does it.

(...because we're supposed to be better than that...)

edited 18th May '15 8:30:38 PM by Pfhorrest

New comic:

http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2015-05-19

(In very exaggerated German accent.) "My lord, do you not think it possible that they can see you pre-"

"Hush, Wesley!"

EDIT: You know what? Let's call Dumb-glorious's bodyguard "Wesley", since Tats seems to enjoy taking forever in giving his characters actual names.

edited 18th May '15 8:49:44 PM by TargetmasterJoe

Y'know, Sue or not I'm actually starting to like Vainglorious. I dunno, he just has that certain something that most of Tats' sues don't have. What was it again? Oh yeah. COMEDIC QUIRKS!

Seriously, take away the Anti-Reality Zone powers, and the prophecy, he'd fit right in with the cast back in the Pre-Sisterhood days. He'd make a good foil to Slick.

Agreed. While he is still annoying (mainly because he is supposed to have a real, but never does anything), but at least he does occasionally produce this rare stuff called humor.

Wow a joke! And not a venomous one either!