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Taper Wax Wolf from Oregon, US Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#1651: Mar 17th 2011 at 4:35:59 PM

The crux, I think, is Kyon's line about having talked about "things like that" with Keiichi and Mion:

"Yeah, I know mom will throw a fit if it comes to light, but it worked out for him, and aunt Mion, so if I can make it work nearly so well, it's entirely worth doing."

Yuuto's reaction is mixed surprise and pride — and wishing that he'd been "half as decisive as you at your age". So. My conclusion is that Yuuto is aware of at least part of what's going on in Hinamizawa. My conclusion is bolstered by the fact that he also says, "your mother must never know about certain parts of this".

Oh, bit of a further guess: I think that at least part of the bad blood between Kyon's mom and Keiichi (and Rika) is Rika's age when she made her move — and that this has been drummed into Kyon somewhat, explaning why Kyon is so defensive without much provocation at multiple points about being perceived as a lolicon. (And why his mom seems to have building paranoia about Nonoko's tendency to pounce Kyon as she hits that same age bracket.)

No matter how fast light travels it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it. —Terry Pratchett
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1652: Mar 17th 2011 at 5:47:00 PM

[up]What paranoia? I didn't notice a thing of the sort.

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Taper Wax Wolf from Oregon, US Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Wax Wolf
#1653: Mar 17th 2011 at 7:34:24 PM

She's prevented some tackles and made a comment about how Nonoko is going to have to "stop doing that soon" when she pounced Kyon in chapter 38. I'm probably overinterpreting this part, though. Any thoughts on _Kyon_'s paranoia?

No matter how fast light travels it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it. —Terry Pratchett
PaxEmpyrean Since: Oct, 2010
#1654: Mar 17th 2011 at 9:22:53 PM

I think Kyon's paranoia is just being played for comedy.

I'm going to have to re-read chapter 22 again, but I think you're probably right about what Kyon's dad thinks is going on.

Specular2 Since: Jul, 2010
#1655: Mar 17th 2011 at 10:33:15 PM

It had been a while since my last post (150 posts more or less, I will catch up later)

Yuuto must have some idea of what is going on in Hinamizawa, but, on the other hand, he didn't know  *

about Keiichi's law degree, so it's not sure to bet that he knows all about the Tenchi Solution.

I always thought that Yuuto was proud of his son because Kyon was very determined to be with one girl (Tsuruya) and willing to be by her side even if they could marry.

Let me elaborate this point. This is what I believe Yuuto thought at that time:

Kyon and Tsuruya fell in love with each other, but at some point Kyon thought that it was very unlikely that her family would accept their relationship (regardless of if Yuuto is unaware of the activities of the Tsuruya family, he does know that they are a very wealthy family), so Kyon considered his options: Win over their support through his actions and if that doesn't work, then he would become Tsuruya's retainer and keep their relationship as discrete as possible just like Keiichi and Mion.

That's the reason why Yuuto was so happy and proud after Kyon said that, because that meant that he managed to accomplish the former and was prepared to accept the latter.

I don't think Yuuto is aware of Kyon's Tenchi Solution, especially after seeing that he became worried after Nonoko mentioned that Haruhi "fixed" Kyon's smile.

About Kyon's mother. I believe she is just worried that Nonoko is too childish for her age (11-12?), which is arguable. Physically, yes. Cognitively, she is a lot smarter than her mother gives her credit for. Personally I think Nonoko seems immature only compared to Miyoko.

One explanation for Kyon's quickness to deny any unflattering implication on the subject of little girls could be that he was thoroughly teased about that in Hinamizawa because of Matsuri.

K: I have an idea, but I'm not sure how safe it is. S: I like it already!
Taper Wax Wolf from Oregon, US Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Wax Wolf
#1656: Mar 18th 2011 at 5:12:53 AM

Looking at that, I think you may be right about that conversation, after all. It does make sense that way, particularly with "decisive". (It also plays into answering what Yuuto thinks is going on with Keiichi et al., though I'm still wondering how much he's aware of, specifically about the "cousins"'s parentage.)

(This is why I like to make my outlandish theories known! Having them shot down helps me not to spiral off too far.)

While we're on the topic of Kyon's dad, though, I do want to ask what people think of his actions in Chapter 36, when Kyon's doing his acrobatics to get Kanae out of the house and finds himself on the floor in front of his dad after jumping past his mom on the stairs. It's very cool that his dad covers for him — but what, exactly, did Yuuto think Kyon was doing?

No matter how fast light travels it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it. —Terry Pratchett
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1657: Mar 18th 2011 at 5:33:32 AM

Come to think of it, have we ever seen Yuuto since that "close encounter"?

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RainyDaze Eheheh... from UK Since: Jul, 2010
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#1658: Mar 18th 2011 at 8:45:38 AM

I don't believe we have seen Yuuto. Ooh, what fun.

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PaxEmpyrean Since: Oct, 2010
#1659: Mar 18th 2011 at 7:40:07 PM

Are you suggesting that Yuuto and Kuyou are the same person? Have we ever seen them in the same place at the same time?

Dun dun DUN!

MadKitsu Why do I need a title again? from Somewhere Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Mu
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#1660: Mar 19th 2011 at 12:52:04 AM

What.

I'd explain the many ways that it would sound just wrong, but...

Also, I would wonder what would happen if Sasaki, in some point in the near future (considering her state of mind at present), found out that Kyon has a harem of his own, and that a Tenchi Solution, with all of the people involved therein being happy about it, is not only possible, but has been done before, and by his own aunts and uncle, no less...

Any thoughts?

edited 19th Mar '11 12:52:21 AM by MadKitsu

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Betatrack Since: Nov, 2010
#1661: Mar 19th 2011 at 1:57:56 AM

That would be definite proof to her that yes, The Power of Love exists and does indeed conquer all.

PaxEmpyrean Since: Oct, 2010
#1662: Mar 19th 2011 at 7:02:08 AM

I would imagine that Sasaki would probably not react well to finding out about that. When presented with something that directly contradicts their preconceived notions, most people go about trying to rationalize why they're not wrong or why the new evidence doesn't matter rather than change their beliefs to account for the new information.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1663: Mar 19th 2011 at 7:29:21 AM

I really hope that Sakaki eventually gets over her self-imposed mental Weirdness Censor. It's only going to complicate things for her and Kyon in the future.

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UncloudedTJ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1665: Mar 19th 2011 at 8:58:02 AM

Why do all of the new chapters appear as I'm about to go to work for 7 hours... ugh.

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dragonKhorse Steampunk/Cyberpunk from Singapore Since: Feb, 2010
#1666: Mar 19th 2011 at 9:02:55 AM

We're back where we started~

Also, it's ACHAKURA!

edited 19th Mar '11 9:12:02 AM by dragonKhorse

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1667: Mar 19th 2011 at 9:52:39 AM

So Mad Kitsu [1] did get it right. grin

PS: Since the footnotes reminded me... Does anyone have an idea about which chapters had been recently edited, again?

edited 19th Mar '11 10:03:36 AM by MarqFJA

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RainyDaze Eheheh... from UK Since: Jul, 2010
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#1668: Mar 19th 2011 at 11:48:56 AM

It's adorable! :D

D'aww.

"So," Haruhi said, "from what Kanae-chan tells me, most versions of Trope-tan have her with a mysterious elder brother character — usually called something like a 'knight of the quill' or 'guardian knight of Neo-Tropeyo'. He's the hero of another story, and she says she's never run into a story that explains him completely."

We found Durandall.

"That's great!" Haruhi said, before her smile faded. "But you know, somehow ... it doesn't seem right that you still call me that. Mikuru-chan, we've been friends for over a year and now — through Kyon — we're practically dating. Can't you call me something a bit friendlier?"

Haruhi seems to know what she wants.

edited 19th Mar '11 12:03:56 PM by RainyDaze

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jasonulloa (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#1669: Mar 19th 2011 at 2:47:12 PM

Yuki backhanding Achakura was epic lolwin.

RainyDaze Eheheh... from UK Since: Jul, 2010
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#1670: Mar 19th 2011 at 4:04:31 PM

And... that's the five posts up!

Would Achakura count as a Shout-Out or Crossover?

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1671: Mar 19th 2011 at 4:42:49 PM

Shout-Out, since the fic is set in the Haruhi Suzumiya 'verse, and is now making a blatant reference to Haruhi Chan (which is a spin-off of the Haruhi Suzumiya franchise, rather than being completely outside it) via Asakura's "punishment".

[up][up] Yeah, I know what you mean. I've been waiting for ages to see how she would act when someone finally manages to make her "lose her temper". I know, "Yuki Nagato losing her temper" is as oxymoronic as it can get. But since when did oxymorons were impossible in the Haruhi Suzumiya 'verse?

edited 19th Mar '11 4:44:53 PM by MarqFJA

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RainyDaze Eheheh... from UK Since: Jul, 2010
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#1672: Mar 19th 2011 at 4:55:20 PM

I'm not entirely sure that she was angry. Seems like the wrong emotion. More like vengeance.

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jasonulloa (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#1673: Mar 19th 2011 at 5:40:12 PM

Just had a thought:

Skynet was created from crazy Asakura bits. Skynet operates Kyon's defenses. Achakura has now been placed in charge of managing Kyon's defenses.

We know that Achakura has been rendered pretty much unable to directly harm Kyon, but what would happen if Achakura were to come back into contact with the crazy Asakura bits?

Also, lol @ "Good Child" mode.

And I love how the title for Chapter 42 is The Answer to Everything.

edited 19th Mar '11 5:59:13 PM by jasonulloa

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1674: Mar 19th 2011 at 6:02:21 PM

My impression is that Yuki had already "purified" the "remnant data" that was left in Asakura's bloomers, during the process of transforming them into Skynet.

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thedarkfreak Since: Jan, 2001
#1675: Mar 19th 2011 at 10:10:32 PM

Ok, we talked about the possibility of Achakura before, and I did NOT think it was going to happen. Now that it actually has, I found myself thoroughly entertained.

Yuki backhand FTW.

Also, I found it funny that Achakura is now in charge of Kyon's defenses, since that's what her current position is in Canon, too. (In Book 10, she shows up to defend Kyon from Kuyou, all the while claiming she wants to kill him herself. In fact, the entire time she's "defending" Kyon, she's got a knife at his throat.)

Also enjoyed Haruhi tackle-kissing Kyon, then getting distracted when he kissed back. Oh, and her making Kyon call Mikuru "Mikuru-chan" just to see Mikuru overload again, and saying she wants to make every one of his dates with Mikuru end like that XD

The view from the IDSE side of things was quite intriguing as well, after we got the SCD side.

Oh, also liked no one commenting on Mikuru sitting on Kyon's lap. Durandall really has a humorous way of describing things sometimes, leaving out the funniest details to the last. "She sat down in Kyon's chair. Kyon was still in it." Koizumi might have something to say about that later, considering, AFAIK, he's still unaware of the Tenchi Solution.

edited 19th Mar '11 10:25:06 PM by thedarkfreak


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