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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#51: Sep 3rd 2011 at 1:32:28 PM

Wow, this is opaque. Why has it been ignored for so long?

Tyoria Since: Jul, 2009
#52: Sep 3rd 2011 at 1:44:16 PM

My suspicions are:

1. Backlog (by far and away) — once something drops off the front page, it's as good as gone unless there's someone who remembers it specifically, or is deliberately browsing the back pages to bump old issues.

2. Diffusion of Responsibility ("someone else will surely take care of it")

3. A desire among many in TRS to not be "pushy" and act independently instead of through clear consensus.

edited 3rd Sep '11 1:47:02 PM by Tyoria

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#53: Sep 3rd 2011 at 2:25:50 PM

It was forgotten. And in this case there was strong consensus that it needed to be changed, but not on what to change it to.

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Tyoria Since: Jul, 2009
#54: Sep 3rd 2011 at 2:37:32 PM

And thank you, Madrugada.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#55: Sep 3rd 2011 at 2:48:13 PM

Camp Follower implies something broader. There have often been other followers, like merchants.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#56: Sep 3rd 2011 at 3:52:50 PM

I'm inclined to make War Camp Prostitute the one about prostitutes and Camp Follower a supertrope about people that follow war camps around like black smiths and stuff.

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StarryEyed Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: If you like it, then you shoulda put a ring on it
#57: Sep 3rd 2011 at 7:25:06 PM

Do camp followers other than prostitutes really get portrayed all that often in media? You see families of officers every so often, but I can't think of a single media portrayal of merchants, blacksmiths, etc. following an army.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#58: Sep 3rd 2011 at 7:31:32 PM

Nurses as camp followers show up all the time in media.

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StarryEyed Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: If you like it, then you shoulda put a ring on it
#59: Sep 3rd 2011 at 7:34:56 PM

Nurses in official capacity— who are by definition not camp followers. Camp followers are civilians who associate with the army for economic benefit or other reasons.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#60: Sep 3rd 2011 at 8:07:41 PM

But the nurses are civilians. They're almost never actually a part of the military unless it's post WWII.

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Tyoria Since: Jul, 2009
#61: Sep 4th 2011 at 7:00:24 PM

I'm kind of on the fence about Camp Follower: it does not literally refer to exclusively prostitutes. It would seem to be an excellent supertrope then. Unfortunately it seems like "prostitute" is the most common profession alluded to— for example:

Washerwomen. That was the polite way of saying camp follower, which was the polite way of saying whore.

(From A Dance with Dragons, released earlier this year.)

It's also the first definition Merriam-Webster gives.

If you say Camp Follower and you mean prostitute, you generally don't have to elaborate. "Jenny the camp follower" would probably be assumed to mean "Jenny the prostitute," expressed somewhat euphemistically. If you say camp follower and mean civilian military contractor or doctor, you do (lest poor Jenny the M.D. be unintentionally maligned). So, technically camp follower would be a legitimate supertrope for all non-military types in a war company, but it might be more practical to come up with something else.

edited 4th Sep '11 7:01:28 PM by Tyoria

Tyoria Since: Jul, 2009
#62: Sep 12th 2011 at 2:16:19 PM

Alright, we look good to go on this one. Camp Follower with War Camp Prostitute as a redirect.

I moved the links, indexes, added a note on Renamed Tropes and the thread here... am I forgetting anything?

edited 12th Sep '11 2:47:13 PM by Tyoria

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