Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Paging ~El Rise to the thread.
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the Retromancer
If the problem is ZCE, normally we just clean up the ZCE if there's nothing else wrong.
I do like avoiding Trope-Namer Syndrome, but I'm not confident renaming to The Logical One would decrease "this character is logical" ZCE.
Edited by Amonimus on Feb 21st 2024 at 11:12:26 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
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That's a good point, so clocking.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
They'd need wick checks of their own to see if they actually have any problems. Otherwise, we're not touching them.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 21st 2024 at 3:08:13 AM
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QWEST!
Absolute Rainbow & the tales between worlds
++ Yeah, that's true.
Edited by AbsoluteRainbow on Feb 21st 2024 at 4:09:08 PM
Absolute Rainbow
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
This thread is about The Spock and no other tropes. We are not touching any other tropes without them getting wick checks (and preferably their own threads). (Plus, we may not even be doing anything with The Spock due to the opening argument being weak.)
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 21st 2024 at 3:10:24 AM
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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Since the issue is ZCEs and not misuse, I'm just going to lock this. We have a cleanup thread for ZCEs.
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Note: This thread was proposed by El Rise.
A wick check is conducted to gauge the severity of The Spock's ZCE + PCE issue. The results are as follows:
- Correct examples with sufficient context: 2/50 (4%).
- Potholes that fit the definition: 3/50 (6%).
- Partial context examples (PCE): 11/50 (22%). Examples that say "this character is logical" with no specific instances that display this trait.
- Zero context examples (ZCE): 11/50 (22%). Many involve character names and are found alongside The Kirk + The McCoy potholes.
- Contextless potholes: 20/50 (40%). Many are potholed in character names and examples of Freudian Trio + Power Trio.
- Misuse: 3/50 (6%).
Solution: Rename to The Logical One. The current trope name is based on a character's name, after all. Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.