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#1: Sep 22nd 2021 at 1:08:13 PM

Beauty, Brains, and Brawn is listed as an Always Female trope, but it doesn't really explain why men can't form such a trio. I've had a (minor) disagreement about this on the Brains Versus Brawn TLP draft and it would be nice to have an explanation so I can know whether or not it's okay to add male characters to the trope (since Always Female can allow rare male examples).

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#2: Sep 22nd 2021 at 1:09:48 PM

Guessing it's because of the "Beauty" part? Female characters who fill the "Beauty" role are a dime a dozen. Male characters...not so much.

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#3: Sep 22nd 2021 at 1:12:07 PM

But why do the "Brains" and "Brawn" members have to be female too?

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#4: Sep 23rd 2021 at 8:33:09 AM

I don't honestly get it either. Is it because most examples are all-female? If so, do we have evidence that:

  • 1: That is the case, and
  • 2: That it actually matters?

On top of that, I'm seeing a lot of the same problems Five-Man Band has replicated on this page (indentation, little context on how they work together, ect.)

Edited by GoldenCityBird on Sep 23rd 2021 at 4:33:16 PM

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#5: Sep 23rd 2021 at 8:39:54 AM

Always Female tropes do allow all-male examples as gender inversions, and the description mentions them...kinda. For example, it would be difficult to argue an all-male trio comprised of a campy fashion designer, a tough martial artist, and a brainy scientist doesn't qualify as this.

I am more wondering why it has to be all the same gender.

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#6: Sep 23rd 2021 at 9:58:54 AM

The example I was contesting had two male characters and one female.

Does the trope deserve TRS at this point to clear up the gender problem?

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#7: Sep 24th 2021 at 7:48:56 AM

Maybe. A wick check would definitely help. As I've said before, a lot of ensemble tropes seem to have similar problems. Maybe a dedicated cleanup project for them, in the vein of the appearance tropes cleanup, could be started.

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#8: Sep 24th 2021 at 7:58:01 AM

As much as I hate Ensemble Tropes, I don't think a massive thread for them will work since a lot of them have unique problems.

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#9: Sep 26th 2021 at 8:41:49 AM

If I had to guess why mixed gender examples aren't considered, maybe it's because mixed gender groups of three tend to be Love Triangles as opposed to a cohesive group. Again, that's my guess. I also can't really think of a group that's Beauty, Brains, and Brawn that's mixed gender.

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#10: Sep 27th 2021 at 12:22:19 PM

Well, there's the one I mentioned in the OP, from Dr. STONE with Senku as the brains, Taiju as the brawn, and Yuzuriha as the beauty. It's also not a love triangle, since it's clear from the start that Senku has no romantic interest in either of them.

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#11: Sep 27th 2021 at 12:24:28 PM

My only guess for why it's supposed to be one gender is because it helps further the contrast... especially since, stereotypically, allowing a mixed gender group would mean the Brain and Brawn are almost never female, and the Beauty never male.

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#12: Sep 28th 2021 at 8:56:20 AM

I would at least support the addition of fully gender-inverted examples. I think that's compliant with the principle of Tropes Are Flexible, no?

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