To-do list:
- Sort wicks. Items that are useless for anything other than selling should be moved to Shop Fodder, while items that have a use but are still usually sold by players should be moved to the YMMV subpage under Better Off Sold.
- 28% of wicks are correct usage.
- 27% of wicks are misuse as "items that aren't worth using".
- 10% of wicks are misuse as "items with purposes in addition to being sold".
- 6% of wicks are misuse that could not be sorted into the above categories.
- 28% of wicks are either ZCEs or potholes in other text without enough explanation related to how it fits this trope.
My theory as to where most of the misuse is coming from is the common definition of trash as "things that are only fit to be discarded", which people subsequently place too much significance on. I'm unsure how to fix it other than a rename, but other courses of action may work.
Edited by GastonRabbit on May 16th 2022 at 5:39:32 AM
I don't see any problems with the options proposed in this post, so a crowner sounds good.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.No arguments here! ^_^
My Games & WritingMade a crowner using the options proposed in this post.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Hooked it.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI removed "Disallow items that have potential purposes other than sale, and clean up the examples" because upon further inspection, it was essentially a duplicate of "Allow the inclusion of items that have potential purposes other than sale, but that the player deems worthy only of selling", in the sense that upvotes for the former mean the same thing as downvotes for the latter. The former had no votes, while the latter did, so nobody's votes were affected.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 18th 2021 at 4:09:26 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Hooked.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportWhat's the Split option splitting off from?
A.k.a what's the other trope that would exist?
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576The split would be the following:
1. An objective trope about items that have no purpose other than to be sold.
2. A YMMV item about items that have a purpose other than being sold, but are usually sold by players regardless.
Thanks!
Fyi, down voted "getting less useful items" because it's already sort of tied into Randomly Generated Loot and Random Drops from enemies.
And then there's the question of why you're fighting low-level enemies that drop useless equips...
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Bump. I think we can call it.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessDo we have a name for the YMMV?
Else, Unintentional Vendor Trash?
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Looks like we're splitting into intentional and unintentional. Calling.
Get name ideas for each trope ready.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportDo we need to rename the intentional one? Can't it just remain as Vendor Trash?
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessI'm with Jay, a rename is probably unnecessary.
Well, even if we can't decide on a name, we can repurpose the Vendor Trash Wick Check to check every wick and handle ZC Es immediately or something?
Sub-1000 wicks, and most should be objective?
Edited by Malady on Aug 26th 2021 at 9:32:25 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576That's a lot more work than just...checking and moving/cutting every wick naturally.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessAll depends on how quickly we can decide on the name for YMMV?
BTW, Fling item is Iron Ball: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Iron_Ball
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576I mean, we won't be doing wick cleanup until everything else is done anyway. Just be patient- there are other cleanups in need right now.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessHas anyone worked on the draft for the spinoff item regarding items that have a purpose other than selling, or are we sending it to the Trope Idea Salvage Yard?
Or do we need a name for it first?
Edit: I made a crowner for the YMMV item that's being made. The Page Action crowner doesn't say anything about changing the name of the current objective trope, so I didn't make a crowner for it yet.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 17th 2021 at 6:11:43 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.If it were a new trope, I'd consider calling it a Gold For Junk, Vendor Drop Box or Vendor Item because the player would simply plop various loot at the vendor in exchange for money. Those three names also have slightly different connotations.
The trope obviously aims for one of those options, with the confusion being low-use items that might as well be sold because they're no longer useful.
Switched crowners.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI advertised the new crowner on ATT. Was there ever any consensus to rename the objective trope, since that was mentioned in the post that called the previous crowner, but not in the crowner itself?
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Crown Description:
What would be the best way to fix the page?
Should we go forward with the crowner?
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness