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Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 29th 2024 at 10:55:20 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#9901: Mar 6th 2024 at 6:03:58 PM

I'm honestly not sure whether or not Devin ever made a comment about Trump fleeing the country.

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JHD0919 One-Track Mind (he/him) from a 12-pack of Diet Coke (Troper in training) Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#9902: Mar 6th 2024 at 6:08:07 PM

What Devin said and didn't say about the Trump cases is on the verge of becoming a discussion of its own, which I believe is off-topic for this thread.

Edited by JHD0919 on Mar 6th 2024 at 9:09:16 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#9903: Mar 6th 2024 at 11:11:33 PM

That's silly. Of course discussing what Devin said is on topic for his own thread...

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#9904: Mar 7th 2024 at 12:13:09 AM

It's off topic for this thread.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#9905: Mar 7th 2024 at 9:29:10 AM

Oops, that was my bad. We do need to figure out how to treat these topics coming up, though.

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Shaoken Since: Jan, 2001
#9906: Mar 7th 2024 at 1:40:04 PM

With no ETA for when the U.S Politics thread will be re-opened or how slow mode for other threads is coming along, should a separate thread for the 2024 U.S Elections be opened? It'd take a topic out of the general thread for when it's opened again, you could implement much tighter rules on the Election thread, and could serve as a indication in if things in OTC are more level headed after the U.S thread has been shuttered for months.

[down]Would you mind elaborating?

Edited by Shaoken on Mar 7th 2024 at 9:06:03 PM

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#9907: Mar 7th 2024 at 1:51:01 PM

[up]I do not believe such a thread should be opened at this point.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#9908: Mar 7th 2024 at 2:27:13 PM

[up][up] What we are discussing now, and I already made my thoughts clear on that earlier.

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#9909: Mar 7th 2024 at 2:41:35 PM

No threads related to US politics will be opened because we are not wasting time moderating them since users clearly cannot discuss it and remain civil. This is a site about TV tropes, not politics. There’s no guarantee the US politics thread will even remain open with slow mode if moderators keep needing to go in there like before.

Edited by kory on Mar 7th 2024 at 2:53:09 AM

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#9910: Mar 9th 2024 at 8:21:07 AM
Thumped: This post was thumped by the Stick of Off-Topic Thumping. Stay on topic, please.
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#9911: Mar 9th 2024 at 10:09:38 AM

[up]I'm unsure if this is the thread for that.

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#9912: Mar 9th 2024 at 10:23:40 AM
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#9913: Mar 9th 2024 at 10:46:03 AM
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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#9914: Mar 9th 2024 at 11:19:59 AM

Two days is maybe a bit short, I'd wait a week before resending the request, and if that one doesn't get answered in a week either, you can raise a stink about it here (politely, of course).

Perhaps it would help if the admins established an expected response time for these requests.

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#9915: Mar 9th 2024 at 11:35:38 AM

[up][up] I feel like the staff should be obliged to respond? Even if it's just a 'message received, will not action further' message.

eta: As [down] pointed out, responding to emails was part of the role they took on when they changed the focus of this thread.

Edited by dcutter2 on Mar 9th 2024 at 7:43:25 PM

Agentofchaos A God Am I from Somewhere in the Universe Since: Dec, 2021
#9916: Mar 9th 2024 at 11:42:02 AM

If the admins are obligated to actually read our emails, then how are we supposed to contact them? We don't really have any other ways to reach out anymore, so if they don't read the emails they can just ignore anything we have to say

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#9917: Mar 9th 2024 at 11:55:34 AM

Complaints are read by the admins, but that doesn't mean they always get a public or private response.

Mods don't get visibility of the admin-only stuff, but I can tell you that we get a lot of spam and rubbish to the mods' own contact form, and I doubt the admins get any less. It can take a while to sort through.

Bear in mind that the admins are doing this for a job — so they may have other demands on their time, and they're certainly not obliged to read site messages outside of working hours (e.g. at the weekend).

Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 9th 2024 at 7:56:07 PM

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#9918: Mar 9th 2024 at 12:15:36 PM

Re: Amonimus

If it's about Fighteer's post in Social Media post, yes he is crossing the line and should be held accountable.

I went and checked - his posts (plural) were thumped. If this is indeed what jjjj2 was referring to, then it looks to me like the staff did what they were asked to do.

Edited by JHD0919 on Mar 9th 2024 at 3:16:15 PM

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#9919: Mar 9th 2024 at 12:22:03 PM

I, uh... I assume there was more being asked of them than "thump the posts", given the history surrounding Fighteer specifically.

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#9920: Mar 9th 2024 at 12:27:09 PM
Thumped: This post was thumped by the Stick of Off-Topic Thumping. Stay on topic, please.
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Shaoken Since: Jan, 2001
#9921: Mar 9th 2024 at 12:37:05 PM

This isn’t reassuring given what happened last times, but the admins have made it clear they don’t want him discussed here so let’s not broach the subject.

For what it’s worth I’ve been hollering posts that are clearly in violation of forum rules and thumps have followed, so there’s no favourtism on display.

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#9922: Mar 9th 2024 at 12:48:31 PM
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#9923: Mar 9th 2024 at 1:00:05 PM

Folks, you have been provided channels for feedback. This thread is not for discussing them.

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STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#9924: Mar 9th 2024 at 1:18:14 PM

Uh, doesn’t the mod code of conduct say that mods are supposed to recuse themselves from situations they’re involved in site-wide?

[down] I’m genuinely asking here - what does this mean?

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Mar 9th 2024 at 4:20:41 AM

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#9925: Mar 9th 2024 at 1:19:13 PM

The rules of this thread have nothing to do with the rules of other threads.

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