Trope Idea Sounding Board

Do you think this trope would be related at all to "We Really Do Care"?

There's no way to really do that unfortunately; if you're the trope launcher you'll be on the page history and the TLP draft history is permanently recorded, but if you don't take the step yourself then there's really no concrete "credit" process.

That said, there's no real credit process anyway; I record the tropes I've launched because I'm proud to have launched them, but once they launch they're no longer "mine". I didn't come up with the ideas, I only wrote down trends I noticed in media; that's all creating a draft really is, it's you recording a media trend that we don't yet have recorded. You can give yourself credit for what you've launched but to the rest of the wiki, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day who launched/drafted/conceived what trope.

Basically, if you want to have any real or percieved historical credit for this trope or even just the draft, you'll need to break out of your comfort zone and do it personally. The TLP community is very helpful when they want to be and can help you learn how to do it, and you're much more passionate about the idea than I am- the ideal sponsor is someone passionate about the concept who can pull up plenty of examples and care enough to see it through, and that's you, not me.

Edit: As for formatting, we can help you learn that too, and there's an administrivia page to help you. Try playing around in Sandbox.Electrotechman and you'll get the hang of it through simple practice; sandbox pages are drafting areas, so nobody will judge you for messing up in a sandbox.

Edited by WarJay77 on May 24th 2020 at 12:06:16 PM

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Having thought about it a bit further while doing other things, what matters most to me about this trope is the fact that it is recognized as such, that other people recognize and enjoy it in the media they watch, and improve the page it will come to inhabit by adding their own examples, which is exactly what this website has always been about, rather than any sense of personal accomplishment. This trope will always hold a special place in my heart as my favorite, but what it needs is an experienced handler, to make it the best it can be. Plus as I have already said, I abhor writing. So go ahead and work on this trope with as much of my approval as I can give you! :)

If you're sure; can you at least give me the other examples you have in mind then? I wouldn't start it right away since I need some time to let the idea simmer, but I can give it a fair shake if others think it'd work out.

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As weird as it is the example I included in my post is the only one that I have because the trope just became SO ubiquitous to me that I only have, but I know that it happens a lot. To make things somewhat easier I will further explain the one example I do have:

The Fairly Odd Parents "Channel Chasers" TV Movie: Early in the plot, Vicky, the physically and verbally abusive and neglectful (though Played for Laughs) evil babysitter of the protagonist, Timmy Turner, is blamed and punished for destroying a great portion of the house, something that Vicky is actually responsible for, and imitating dangerous stunts he witnessed on television. When he tries to defend his innocence by pointing out that Vicky is evil, and was responsible for the damage, (both of these claims are true) his parents refuse to believe him, and feeling deeply hurt and resentful this mistreatment, he runs away to TV Land using a wish. Much later, after having been shown irrefutable proof of Vicky's evil nature and photographic evidence of not only poor evil deeds but also her destroying the house For The Evils, they realize that Timmy was innocent, having a My God What Have I Done moment, and become desperate enough to contact him that they sneak into a TV station, highjack its programming and send a tearful and deeply apologetic message to all of the channels the station can reach, hoping that he will see it and return home, telling him that he has every reason to be angry with them, they were completely wrong in regards to how they treated him, and they just want to "come back" home, because they love him.

There you go. Once again, I am sorry that I can only provide this example, but it is just that as I said before, this trope has become so ubiquitous and commonplace to me, because I love it so much, that I can't recall any specific instances of it aside from that one if that makes any sense.

Edited by Electrotechman on May 24th 2020 at 9:41:16 AM

I don't think this trope is recorded anywhere, so I can't even search for instances of them via a common name like I can many other tropes.

That's the point of TLP; to record concepts that have yet to be recorded. If it already exists, our job would be done.

Anyway, I want to let others weigh in.

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Little nitpick: I'd prefer the word "document" over "record".

But back to the trope idea... it sounds a bit too specific. I've seen more about "Alice" being mistreated in general (instead of being blamed over something she didn't commit) that she decides to either leave, or do something that "Bob" considers bad, which causes him to have a Jerkass Realization for mistreating her in the first place.

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I was looking for a trope for characters that are caring and empathetic to a fault, but before I type out something, I wanted to try to pin it down here.

By "to a fault", you mean it's "to their own detriment"?

Almost sounds like Chronic Hero Syndrome

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It's not exactly that...it's related more to Stupid Good.

Honor Before Reason

Some ideas I had for TLP drafts:

• Multishipping: A page explaining the term. (Shipping ships that overlap, e.g. A/B and B/C. Distinct from Polyamory and One True Threesome; while they can overlap, one does not imply the other.) Like Shipping and its sub"tropes", it would be No On-Page Examples.
• The Daredevil: a character who performs risky stunts, such a hotshot pilot. May also be a Thrill Seeker.
• Exit The Awkward Situation: a character leaves or tries to leave to avoid awkwardness. The examples I can think of are played for laughs.
• Disgust At Sappiness: a character is repulsed by "mushy" stuff and sentimental moments.
• Dark-Haired Introvert: A dark-haired character is aloof or introverted.
• Eyes Out Of Frame: A character's face is shown, but their eyes are just out of frame. This can convey things such as: being under emotional stress, having thoughts they're not saying, being deceptive and sneaky. Seems to be a popular visual effect in anime/manga and Animesque works. Compare Hidden Eyes, Face Framed in Shadow, and Peek A Bangs.
• Ghostly Tether: A ghost is stuck in a particular place. Perhaps it's where they died, lived, or were buried. May be a Haunted House or Haunted Castle. Compare Haunted Fetter, for when they are bound to an object.
• Brave Vs. Fearless: a distinction is drawn between being brave (acting in spite of fear) and being fearless.

I've had some thoughts on an oxymoronic "Firefighter of Flames" trope. Trope Namer is "Fire Brigade of Flames" (aka Fire Force), which AFAIK uses it as a central premise.

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Other examples:

• Cubix: Robots for Everyone: After the firefighting robot Ixtinguish is driven berserk by Solex infection, it inexplicably develops the ability to shoot fire from its fire extinguishers.
• Kamen Rider Fourze: The title character's "Fire States" form is themed after a firefighter, with a weapon that functions as both a fire extinguisher and flamethrower.
• In Kyūkyū Sentai GoGoV (and by extension Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue) most of the team’s rescue vehicles are equipped with fire extinguishers which see heavy use, but the Finishing Move of their humanoid combined form is a Flaming Sword.
• Mega Man Battle Network: Inverted in the English localisations, which renamed the pyrokinetic Fireman.EXE to Torchman.EXE in order to avoid associations with the profession.

That said, I'm not sure if this is really a thing, or if it's Too Rare to Trope. And it can be Justified in that people with fire powers are often good at surviving in burning buildings.

1. Multishipping: sounds like Ship-to-Ship Combat?
2. The Daredevil: we may already have it in TLP, that is if it's not already In Harm's Way
3. Exit The Awkward Situation: sounds like Backing Away Slowly
4. Disgust At Sappiness: we may have it in TLP (Disrupting The Heartwarming, but I like your title better)
5. Dark Haired Introvert: Aloof Dark-Haired Girl?
6. Eyes Out Of Frame: Sounds like a good trope. (May also be used on He Who Must Not Be Seen)
7. Ghostly Tether: we may have it in TLP (if it's not launched already)
8. Brave vs Fearless: Fearless Fool?

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Multishipping (see Fanlore) is the opposite of Ship-to-Ship Combat— it's sailing more than one ship for a particular character, shipping Character A with Character B and with Character C (and D, and E...). But it's also different from shipping them polyamorously— A with both B and C (or more) at the same time.

Ship-to-ship combat is when people ship Characters A and B while opposing another ship/any other ship for those characters, other people ship Characters A and C, and the A/Bs and A/Cs clash over which is the "canon"/"true" ship for character A. It gets uuuggglllyyyy.

Multishipping is also different from supporting multiple ships that don't compete with each other— shipping both A/B and C/D.

... That said, I'm not sure if we need a separate page or if it could fold into an existing page.

... That said, I may have accidentally started a description, huh?

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Isn't that covered by Gotta Ship 'Em All? Or maybe Ship Mates if it's just two or three couples being shipped together.

Edited by Adept on May 29th 2020 at 12:32:23 AM

A character claims to be famous, but such a claim is very understated and ridiculous? For example, Weird Al's song "Lame Claim to Fame," and in Singles where Matt Dillon's character claims that his band is "huge in Belgium."

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How about tropes about the different guitar tunings? Guitarists in many genres utilize countless different guitar tunings for various reasons: drop tunings for easier and faster fingering of low power chords, standard tunings for easier playing of spider chords, etc. Tuning often forms a big part of riff-writing, so I thought it might be worthwhile to associate these tunings with the musicians that have pages on this wiki, as well as analyze why guitarists use the tunings they do.

How a naming convention trope about characters who are referred to as [their name] of [place of origin or home], like "Bob of Tropetown", this can be within the work itself or be part of the work's title. Examples off the top of my head:

- George of the Jungle

-Various Dark Souls characters: Anri of Astora, Sirris of the Sunless Realms, Siegmeyer of Catarina

-Jesus of Nazareth

-Korgoth of Barbaria

This might be a "people sit on chairs thing", but characters with these names somehow give me an impression that they're important, whether they are in-universe or not. This is definitely a rough pitch, so please leave input if this trope is unnecessary or already exists, or if this is not wide-spread (I could only really think of examples from Dark Souls, after all). And if you think I'm on to something, please help me refine it!

Edited by antenna_ears on May 28th 2020 at 10:51:49 AM

That sort of thing happens in the absence of surnames. See Leonardo da Vinci ("da Vinci" meaning "of/from Vinci"):

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I don't know enough about the topic to comment, but are you sure it wouldn't be better suited as a Useful Notes page?

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Small Name, Big Ego?

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Ship Mates isn't overlapping ships — it's A/B and C/D. Gotta Ship 'Em All describes all the ships that can be found in a given fandom, without regard to what individuals are shipping. It is possible to have Gotta Ship 'Em All without any multishipping in the mix. Multishipping also does not imply shipping all the ships.

If Alice watches a show and comes away shipping A/B and B/C, that's multishipping.

If she comes away shipping A/B and C/D, it is not.

If a lot of A/B fans also like C/D, those two pairings are Ship Mates.

If for just about any given pairing, you can find someone who ships it, that's Gotta Ship 'Em All.

Yeah, these examples probably fall under Hometown Nickname, a page I didn't initially think fit the bill, because I thought that the gist of the trope (no laconic) was that the hometown is the entire nickname, not just part of the name or a title. I'm new to editing, and "Hometown Nickname" is pretty bare-bones, detail-wise, so I'm going to make some clarifying edits.

Edited by antenna_ears on May 29th 2020 at 1:18:23 AM

Great clarification on multishipping!

Since it's on the individual level of individual people shipping multiple pairings, rather than a fandom's segments or as a whole, I'm not sure how that translates into an Audience Reaction. Or would it be something where it's defined but then in-universe examples only of characters who are multishippers?

extra arrow cause typing same time

Edited by ImmiThrax on May 29th 2020 at 4:18:35 AM

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Don't have much time to really explain in depth (I am way overdue for sleep because I'm insane and stayed up anyway), but I have New School Friend and it occurred to me a split might be in order, one for the idea of a "new friend that teaches the ropes", and another for the general concept of "new kid immediately finds a best friend, often after being bullied first". Some examples will overlap but I think it'd make sense.

Thoughts?

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related is how other languages use it: "von" (German), "no" (Japanese), "de" (French), etc.

Sounds like First Friend, applied to school

Edited by 4tell0life4 on May 29th 2020 at 1:29:25 AM

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