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HighCrate Since: Mar, 2015
#1: Mar 6th 2018 at 8:42:17 PM

Stillborn Serial has been around since at least 2011 with three paragraphs, a quote, no examples, and 36 wicks.

The thing is, it's just a The Same But More Specific version of Dead Fic. Which itself is just "Orphaned Series, but for fanfiction."

Not seeing anything worth saving here. I was all set to bring it to the YKTTW Crash Rescue thread, assuming that it must be some ill-conceived recent launch, until I saw how old it was.

shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#2: Mar 11th 2018 at 1:26:31 PM

Looking over the page: I agree.

It's really just a broader version of Dead Fic that includes OC content. Just re-direct it to Orphaned Series for for the sake of posterity and cut it.

edited 12th Mar '18 12:17:13 AM by shoboni

ADrago Since: Dec, 2015
eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#4: Mar 12th 2018 at 1:45:56 AM

Stillborn Serial seems to be about online works that were cancelled very early and abruptly. Dead Fic can be a slow and painful death of a work which may have been around for some time. Is this a distinction worthwhile to keep?

I am more concerned about Dead Fic and Orphaned Series describing the same thing for different types of media. Don't we have media sections to cover that?

shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#5: Mar 12th 2018 at 7:17:59 PM

I think it's because Deadfic is a very spefitic and pre-existing term we didn't invent.

So merging the tropes would violate rules about abiding by common outside usage and cause confusion. .

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#6: Aug 19th 2018 at 1:19:01 AM

Clock is ticking.

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ADrago Since: Dec, 2015
#7: Aug 19th 2018 at 1:45:26 PM

I stand by my previous suggestion to make Stillborn Serial a redirect to Orphaned Series.

Edited by ADrago on Aug 19th 2018 at 4:45:05 AM

bitemytail from Arizona Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#8: Aug 20th 2018 at 8:18:43 AM

I'd be good with just cutting it and fixing the wicks to point to a more appropriate trope.

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#9: Aug 20th 2018 at 8:45:51 AM

I read the page and to me it seems that it is a subtrope to Orphaned Series / Dead Fic when the fic dies in a very early stage. It still seems unnecessary though.

Edited by QuantumMelody29 on Aug 20th 2018 at 3:45:46 PM

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TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
#10: Aug 20th 2018 at 11:25:12 AM

Agree with cutting. All the examples would just go under Orphaned Series.

Edited by TheMountainKing on Aug 20th 2018 at 2:24:52 PM

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#11: Aug 20th 2018 at 1:23:47 PM

I don't see a significant difference between Stillborn Serial and Orphaned Series. I support converting the former into a redirect to the latter and moving the wicks.

Dead Fic, on the other hand, seems like a specific phenomenon, a significantly different subtrope.

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SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#12: Sep 19th 2018 at 10:42:01 PM

Resetting clock.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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#14: Sep 20th 2018 at 1:05:21 AM

Merge with/redirect to Orphaned Series.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 20th 2018 at 3:08:49 AM

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SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#16: Oct 25th 2018 at 10:39:14 PM

Resetting clock again.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#18: Oct 28th 2018 at 7:24:46 PM

I think that's 8 in favour of merging and... 1 against?


I'll add my consensus to merging, so 9:1 in favour.

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SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#19: Dec 1st 2018 at 1:50:21 AM

Consensus is in favour of merging into Orphaned Series.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#20: Dec 1st 2018 at 4:42:46 AM

Is there anything worth salvaging from the content of Stillborn Serial (page quote?) or should it be cut as is?

Edited by eroock on Dec 1st 2018 at 2:46:06 PM

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#21: Dec 10th 2018 at 10:54:04 AM

I've made a sandbox (here) because the description itself could use some work anyways. By the fourth paragraph, the description reads like someone is holding a grudge or something. The voice totally changes. This problem returns in the last paragraph about Wikipedia's entry on this phenomenon, so I took it out.

I merged some of the rhetoric from Stillborn Serial, but the two pages said mostly the same thing. I don't think there's much else to merge on that front.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#22: Jun 17th 2019 at 7:20:17 PM

Checking in, since it has been several months. Is the sandbox ready, or does it need some more tweaks?

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#23: Jan 18th 2020 at 12:27:45 PM

It's been several more months. I think the sandbox is fine.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#24: Jan 19th 2020 at 4:00:58 PM

I guess it's time to swap it in, then.

ETA: Done. Now we can go finish the merge.

Edited by Berrenta on Jan 19th 2020 at 6:05:52 AM

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#25: Jan 19th 2020 at 5:36:05 PM

Wicks are done, so we can finally wrap this up.

Cutting and closing.

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