Just a Face and a Caption: Hollywood Old

Literally Just A Face And A Caption.

The previous thread clocked out. I don't think this falls under JAFAAC as the contrast between the actress and her character's stated age in the caption is clear, so voting Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

edited 2nd Feb '18 4:07:30 PM by Willbyr

The image/caption combo works and makes it a strong Keep.

Instead of a caption would a screen to a wiki page stating her age and one for the age of the character work better?

Yeah, strong keep.

I don't see any difference that would make

Age tropes are difficult to portray without an explanatory caption (see Playing Gertrude, for example), and in this case I don't think the pic/caption combo hurts the page. Barring a lampshade, gonna vote Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

I don't have problems with the concept of the image as much as with this particular example. Was Hypatia's age ever stated in the movie itself? She is a rather obscure historical figure, the readers might not know what her age at the time when the movie takes place is supposed to be.

It's a Keep Until Better Image Suggested, sure, but very weak one from me.

Seconding this question. If her age was never stated in that particular adaption of the story/history it could easily be a case of Historical Domain Character Age Lift.

edited 2nd Feb '18 11:26:25 PM by shoboni

I haven't seen it (nor am I familiar with the history), but this is the entry on the film page:

"Hypatia, looking like 30 even at the last part of the movie when the real Hypatia was over 60 (Rachel Weisz was nearly 40 at the time of filming, too). Other sources identified Hypatia's age to be about 40, and given the liberties taken by the film, maybe they even deliberately made her younger."

So, given that the historical record is fuzzy... both?

Seems to be a tricky case. From the work page and the other wiki I gathered that the example is a case #2 scenario of Hollywood Old. Although it's not clear if her age was mentioned in-universe.

If the image relies on a caption to be illustrative, and it's hard to illustrate the trope in any other way, I think that having a concrete, unambiguous example would be better, since the image would be misleading otherwise.

Pull regardless of replacement.

Relying on the caption is not banned as long as the image itself adds something. This one obviously adds what she looks like.

Keep.

Gonna side on Keep Until Better Image Suggested for this one; I'd like to see an actual counter-suggestion first.

Howard Hughes◊ and Leonardo Di Caprio◊ playing him in The Aviator, for starters.

The makeup makes Leo look closer to Hughes' actual age than the current's does to how old she's supposed to be, so . Decent for Image Links, but not better than the current.

Pull it regardless of replacement.

Crowner?

We've got a lot of consensus to keep the current and one alternate suggestion with no support beyond the suggestion, so I'm not seeing a real need for a crowner at this point.