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TheMightyHeptagon Since: Aug, 2011
#1: Nov 18th 2017 at 7:41:03 PM

I don't know if I'm the first person to bring this up, but not only is the current image just a picture of a single character's face paired with a caption, but it seems pretty incongruous that there are six characters in the page image for Primary-Color Champion (this trope's inversion). Secondary Color Nemesis is a broad enough trend that it should be easy to come up with six villains to match six champions.

I would suggest this image as an alternative.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/secondary_color.png
Nothing says "evil" like purple, orange and green.

Not that most of the characters shown in the image are the archenemies of Primary Color Champions (including some of the ones shown in the page image for that trope). I think that illustrates the trope fairly well.

Thoughts?

edited 18th Nov '17 7:41:37 PM by TheMightyHeptagon

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#2: Nov 19th 2017 at 3:11:33 PM

Keep. I can see the secondary colors and the villainy fine enough on the current.

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TheMightyHeptagon Since: Aug, 2011
#3: Nov 19th 2017 at 5:22:02 PM

Yes, it demonstrates it fine, but it’s just one character. One character doesn’t illustrate a trend.

If you’re going to use multiple characters to illustrate one trope, it makes sense to use multiple characters to illustrate that trope’s direct inversion.

edited 19th Nov '17 5:23:56 PM by TheMightyHeptagon

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#4: Nov 19th 2017 at 5:36:30 PM

There are times when a multiple-image collage like your suggestion would work. If it can be illustrated fine with one character, then a collage would be overdoing it.

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#5: Nov 19th 2017 at 5:39:23 PM

I think changing the image to match Primary-Color Champion is a good idea, but the rightmost two figures in the suggestion don’t look particularly villainous.

edited 19th Nov '17 5:39:45 PM by Synchronicity

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#6: Nov 19th 2017 at 5:47:45 PM

^Agreeing. OP > current

TheMightyHeptagon Since: Aug, 2011
#7: Nov 19th 2017 at 7:01:10 PM

I understand. How about this?

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/secondary_color_2.png
Nothing says "evil" like purple, orange and green.

edited 19th Nov '17 7:01:56 PM by TheMightyHeptagon

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#8: Nov 19th 2017 at 7:15:48 PM

Edit: Thinking on it further... I might give it a weak [tup]. Still not convinced enough to fully support the motion of six characters.

edited 19th Nov '17 7:34:50 PM by Berrenta

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#10: Nov 19th 2017 at 8:08:19 PM

7 is better than OP, but (YMMV) I'm not digging all the shadows, fluttery capes, and other extraneous elements on the comic villains... maybe swap out one or two for a more cartoony example (eg. Mojo Jojo from Powerpuff Girls, Waluigi from Mario, Piccolo from Dragon Ball)? Might also make the whole image easier on the eyes.

TheMightyHeptagon Since: Aug, 2011
#11: Nov 19th 2017 at 8:19:50 PM

[up] I was honestly just trying to remember one character who I'd considered adding to the list, but I couldn't remember who it was.

I just remembered that it was Mojo Jojo.

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edited 19th Nov '17 8:22:14 PM by TheMightyHeptagon

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#12: Nov 19th 2017 at 8:23:25 PM

I'd say swap out Maleficent and Doom for Waluigi and Mojo Jojo.

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#13: Nov 19th 2017 at 9:51:20 PM

Honestly, it's bugging me that the villains are not in the same positions as their counterpart heroes. I mean, if we really want to make these pages match, shouldn't Lex be in the upper-middle portion and Megatron be in the upper-left (cough)? If we could get Bowser in the bottom-middle that'd also be better, imo. (Or Waluigi in the bottom-middle; either works for my point, tbh.)

EDIT: Also, the bottom three of the heroes' trope are from Eastern sources, so I think it'd be even better if the bottom three here are also from Eastern sources if we can find them. Off the top of my head, I'd think Cell from DBZ and Ripley from Metroid.

edited 19th Nov '17 10:14:27 PM by WaterBlap

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TheMightyHeptagon Since: Aug, 2011
#14: Nov 19th 2017 at 10:09:04 PM

[up][up] I’d make a case for using Bowser instead of Waluigi. He’s much more iconic as Mario’s nemesis, and his color scheme is predominately orange and green, so he still illustrates the trope.

At the very least, I can put Lex Luthor and Bowser in the same positions as Superman and Mario.

edited 19th Nov '17 10:11:01 PM by TheMightyHeptagon

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#15: Nov 19th 2017 at 10:37:10 PM

[up][up] I’d make a case for using Bowser instead of Waluigi. He’s much more iconic as Mario’s nemesis, and his color scheme is predominately orange and green, so he still illustrates the trope.

More like red hair, yellow scales and yellow spikes. Like the shell is green...

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#16: Nov 19th 2017 at 10:57:00 PM

Maleficent (lower left image) is mostly black with only a little purple, so doesn't illustrate well. Unless we indeed make them all match with the Primary Color Champions, suggestion to replace Maleficent with dr. Facilier, who's also a villain but has more prominent purple.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/facilier_1.jpg

edited 19th Nov '17 10:57:21 PM by LB7979

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#17: Nov 19th 2017 at 11:02:17 PM

This is mostly orange and green. This even moreso.

Waluigi is mostly just purple...

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TheMightyHeptagon Since: Aug, 2011
#18: Nov 20th 2017 at 3:24:33 PM

How about this?

I replaced Maleficent, Sabretooth and Doctor Doom with Mojo Jojo, Bowser and Dr. Facilier.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/secondary_color_2_2.png
Nothing says "evil" like purple, orange and green.

edited 20th Nov '17 3:30:12 PM by TheMightyHeptagon

TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#19: Nov 20th 2017 at 8:13:25 PM

Looks good. Just make Mojo Jojo and Bowser smaller.

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#20: Nov 20th 2017 at 11:05:52 PM

I think it's rather the opposite, that the other characters look too small.

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#21: Nov 21st 2017 at 12:17:28 AM

Shouldn’t have 3 comic book characters on it, needs more mediums.

For anime, Cell from DBZ?

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/9a31c2adfc0aee8f7bdcac4816a1e21f.png

edited 21st Nov '17 12:22:35 AM by Memers

LB7979 from the Netherlands Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#22: Nov 21st 2017 at 1:25:17 AM

TBH, Facilier looks less purple when scaled down. Would this illustrate better?

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/facilier_1.png

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#23: Nov 21st 2017 at 4:37:49 AM

It probably should be a full body shot but the Noodle People ruins it so probably should find someone else.

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#24: Nov 24th 2017 at 10:25:21 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/secondary_color_nemesis.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/secondary_color_nemesis_3.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/secondary_color_nemesis1.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/secondary_color_nemesis4.jpg
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edited 27th Nov '17 1:43:08 AM by eroock

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