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DustSnitch Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#1: Oct 27th 2017 at 1:47:10 PM

The current image for The Four Loves depicts two hands reaching for each other. This tells us nothing about what the four loves are, why they are different, or anything else besides the fact that this trope is related to relationships.

As an alternative, I would like to suggest using the opening image from this animated C.S. Lewis lecture. It shows the name of each of the Four Loves with stick figures under them demonstrating their differences. Here it is:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lewisfourloves.png
"... love is as strong as death..."

edited 27th Oct '17 1:47:34 PM by DustSnitch

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#2: Oct 28th 2017 at 5:50:16 AM

That's not bad, but the images under the names don't really do much aside from the Eros one. It might be be better to have a 2x2 collage with pics clearly representing the loves and a title on each.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#3: Oct 28th 2017 at 6:32:02 AM

On one hand, it's not a great image. On the other hand, it actually illustrates the trope, which is a plus above the current one.

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Millership from Kazakhstan Since: Jan, 2014
#4: Oct 28th 2017 at 6:55:12 AM

OP is illustrative, although there could be legibility issues.

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DustSnitch Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#5: Oct 29th 2017 at 1:41:34 PM

A collage would be better, but I don't know of any.

In any case, the image does demonstrate all four, with Storge being love between a family (the large group with people from infancy to old age), Philia being love between friends (two people pointing towards the same goal), Eros being love between the lovers (kissin'), and Agape being wholly unconditional love (a cloud representing God floating over all people).

Agape is probably the hardest to get from the doodle, but at least it's there.

Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#6: Oct 29th 2017 at 1:52:03 PM

The OP suggestion could be improved by cutting off a bit of the black area on the sides, which would make the center look bigger and more readable.

DustSnitch Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#8: Oct 30th 2017 at 1:46:32 PM

[up] Thank you, that's much more legible than my submission. Is there anything that needs to be worked out ir can the image be replaced?

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#9: Oct 30th 2017 at 8:07:30 PM

It's an improvement, but it still doesn't make what the ones aside from Eros are any more clear. Without doubling back and reading post 5, I wouldn't have known what the 2nd and 4th pics represented.

edited 30th Oct '17 8:08:44 PM by Willbyr

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#10: Oct 31st 2017 at 12:00:40 AM

I personally find the "Four Loves" text redundant, since it's already the trope name, so here's two 2x2 versions. [down] EDIT: Yeah, thought 350px was overkill too, but at least the "agape" image is clearer. Here's 300 and 250, then.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/4loveslewis.png
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/4loves250.png

edited 31st Oct '17 3:02:14 AM by Synchronicity

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#11: Oct 31st 2017 at 2:50:05 AM

I think those are overkill in size.

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DustSnitch Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#12: Oct 31st 2017 at 8:24:06 PM

In response to post 9, I don't think there is a better simplistic illustration for Philia than two people energetically pointing in the same direction. Most other images would end up depicting mere companionship, where people enjoy the company of others for pleasure or utility rather than in light of a greater good connecting the two.

The agape image is definitely ambiguous, but agape itself is ambiguous. Lewis spends most of his writing on it pointing out how he had not truly experienced that love and pointing out that it is as beyond us as God is. With that knowledge, a vague image is probably better than a precise, but inaccurate one.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#13: Oct 31st 2017 at 8:35:56 PM

Well, if we can't find anything better, then I can live with 10.2.

Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#14: Nov 1st 2017 at 8:02:57 AM

10.2 should show the big sparkling star.

DustSnitch Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#15: Nov 2nd 2017 at 2:45:17 PM

You can still see the edge of it in 10.2. The image would be better with the full star, but it sufficiently demonstrates the loves as is.

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#16: Nov 3rd 2017 at 5:56:54 AM

I guess I can go with 10.2.

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DustSnitch Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#17: Nov 4th 2017 at 2:08:03 PM

Can the current image be replaced with 10.2 now?

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#18: Nov 4th 2017 at 3:03:55 PM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/four_loves_8.jpg
With alternative icons used in the clip.

edited 4th Nov '17 4:10:36 PM by eroock

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#19: Nov 4th 2017 at 3:09:11 PM

That works. The relative lack of blackspace at the top looks disproportional to the other edges, though.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#22: Nov 5th 2017 at 6:55:54 AM

18's much more clear. [tup]

TheUnsquished Filthy casual from Southern Limey Land (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#23: Nov 5th 2017 at 7:02:54 AM

18 is good.

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Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?

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