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Deadlock Clock: Sep 16th 2017 at 11:59:00 PM
Millership from Kazakhstan Since: Jan, 2014
#1: Aug 27th 2017 at 3:38:37 AM

Several issues:

  1. The page image of Head-in-the-Sand Management is the same as Neville Chamberlain.
  2. Head-in-the-Sand Management is explicitly a No Real Life Examples trope, yet it has an image of historical figures.
  3. Chamberlain himself is portrayed in profile, and the image is of somewhat poor quality.
I suggest:
  1. Remove the pic from Head-in-the-Sand Management.
  2. Replace the Neville Chamberlain picture with this.
Previous thread for reference.

edited 27th Aug '17 3:40:29 AM by Millership

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#2: Aug 27th 2017 at 5:35:36 AM

I can support both suggestions. [tup]

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#3: Aug 27th 2017 at 5:59:57 AM

It's worth pointing out that the last thread was explicitly closed by Fast Eddie pulling executive privilege to keep that picture on both pages. I'm sort of OK with keeping it on Head in the Sand leadership, by I realize that the page has been made a no real life example page since that thread.

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#4: Aug 27th 2017 at 9:38:32 AM

I'm good with the OP's suggestions, pending someone coming up with another suggestion for Head-in-the-Sand Management.

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#5: Aug 27th 2017 at 2:24:42 PM

OP's suggestions are good.

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#7: Aug 27th 2017 at 6:49:48 PM

Yeah, any change to either page's image would require changing or removing Neville Chamberlain's caption.

edited 27th Aug '17 6:50:04 PM by MorganWick

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#8: Aug 27th 2017 at 6:55:57 PM

Agreed, that's just silly.

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#9: Aug 27th 2017 at 7:16:11 PM

I blame Fast Eddie for that caption. Mainly because he's the one who added it.

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#10: Aug 28th 2017 at 7:43:58 AM

Makes sense, Chamberlain is principally known for his handling of the Nazi threat.

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Millership from Kazakhstan Since: Jan, 2014
#12: Aug 29th 2017 at 10:56:10 AM

I think just the last panel would be enough.[tup]

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#13: Aug 29th 2017 at 6:04:53 PM

The bottom row gets full context across...I think panels 6+8 could be a good compromise.

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#14: Aug 30th 2017 at 8:25:42 AM

I think 6+8 of the Dilbert strip works.

edited 30th Aug '17 8:27:24 AM by TheUnsquished

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#15: Aug 30th 2017 at 11:11:05 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/dilbertmanagement2.png
some caption text

Sure. Plus one with panel 5 for extra "management" points.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/dilbertmanagement3_1.png
some caption text

EDIT: If the "need to mobilize the forces against the villain" part is an important part of the trope, Dilbert may be a little mundane.

edited 30th Aug '17 11:15:34 AM by Synchronicity

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#17: Aug 30th 2017 at 9:21:21 PM

Either one of the images from 15 would be good. The first one is more concise, but I think the 3-panel one is slightly more clear, since it adds contexts about what the situation is.

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#18: Aug 31st 2017 at 12:47:13 AM

I don't think that Dilbert strip is an example of the trope though. The description makes Head-in-the-Sand Management out to specifically be about someone trying to appease an evil threat instead of standing up against them (as they should), and not about "incompetent management practice" in general.

edited 31st Aug '17 12:49:51 AM by Adept

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#19: Aug 31st 2017 at 4:07:56 AM

[up] ...that's true. I wonder, then, if the Dilbert pic would be suitable for another trope.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#20: Sep 1st 2017 at 2:32:05 AM

Well, there's Ostrich Head Hiding, but that one already has a pic.

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#22: Sep 17th 2017 at 8:04:40 AM

Clock expired, but we still have the duplicate issue. As the trope is NRLEP, are we good with just pulling the pic there and call it done?

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#23: Sep 17th 2017 at 8:30:25 AM

Seems good to me.

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#25: Sep 17th 2017 at 1:16:40 PM

I'd go against those, since one of the reasons in OP was that real life examples aren't allowed, so we shouldn't have a real life image. While they're cartoons, they still represent real people a little too closely for me.

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