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neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#1: Jul 1st 2017 at 9:00:10 AM

I can't think of any other TV Tropes page image that relies on subtitles. While I wouldn't want to rule out using that, I do think ideally we should find something less reliant on dialogue.

Here's an XKCD example, to get the ball rolling...

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/xkcdfourthwall.png

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#2: Jul 1st 2017 at 4:42:33 PM

That's not bad. As an alternate, there's this. Panels 1 and 4 or 1, 4, 5, 6 are good.

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#3: Jul 2nd 2017 at 4:20:42 AM

Either panel suggestion in 2 seems all right to me.

edited 2nd Jul '17 4:22:10 AM by TheUnsquished

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#5: Jul 12th 2017 at 3:18:01 AM

I don't understand the 1+4 combo. It doesn't even begin to show the trope. Here's how 3+5+6 and 4+5+6 would look like.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fourth_wall_apologize_0.jpg
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fourth_wall_apologize.jpg

edited 12th Jul '17 3:42:45 AM by eroock

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#6: Jul 12th 2017 at 3:23:30 AM

Honestly, the best panel layout is 3+4+5+6.

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#7: Jul 12th 2017 at 4:06:19 AM

I went with panel 1 because he's looking directly at the reader, which the trope is kinda predicated on, and because I liked the idea of keeping the reason unrevealed until the last panel.

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#8: Jul 12th 2017 at 4:20:49 AM

If anything, revealing that he's sad about making bad webcomics while he's facing the audience enhances the psych that he's talking to the person currently reading the webcomic.

That said, either of the three panel versions that erorock provides is a good layout.

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#9: Jul 12th 2017 at 4:31:05 AM

I've added those and 3 through 6 to the crowner.

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#10: Jul 15th 2017 at 4:22:17 PM

Votes bump; only one in the green right now.

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#11: Jul 19th 2017 at 7:24:50 PM

This is ready to call. The new pic's up and the tag's adjusted; caption?

Old pic:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/simpsonsshotburns7_1042.jpg

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#12: Jul 20th 2017 at 4:45:46 AM

Doesn't need one.

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Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#13: Jul 20th 2017 at 5:43:40 AM

The Image Links subpage only has the chosen pic. Cutlist it?

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#14: Jul 20th 2017 at 6:03:34 AM

[up] Yeah, it's kinda pointless now.

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#15: Jul 20th 2017 at 9:50:41 PM

No caption is needed.

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#16: Jul 20th 2017 at 11:45:04 PM

Huh, I distinctly remember having an IP conversation about this trope and the previous image is voted over that exact xkcd suggestion. It's in the Image Links subpage because the other pic was chosen

edited 20th Jul '17 11:51:01 PM by Adept

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#18: Jul 21st 2017 at 3:37:06 PM

Can somebody explain the joke in the winning image?

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#19: Jul 21st 2017 at 4:11:33 PM

[up] At first it looks like the guy has broken the border of the comic panel, but turns out it was the wall of some kind of spacecraft he was in.

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#20: Jul 21st 2017 at 4:21:06 PM

But wouldn't that just be a subverted Panel Break?

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#22: Jul 21st 2017 at 5:09:19 PM

The trope is a subversion of Breaking the Fourth Wall, and Panel Break can be a type of that.

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#23: Jul 22nd 2017 at 1:50:50 AM

Is it too late to bring up the issue that the current pic already lost to its predecessor in a previous discussion, and that the latter wasn't even put in the new crowner?

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#24: Jul 22nd 2017 at 5:13:33 AM

[up] It's really weird. I've just read the previous thread and the consensus was just the opposite. Someone also argued that Frame Break is just Medium Awareness, not Breaking the Fourth Wall... If they're right, we have a problem.

edited 22nd Jul '17 5:14:20 AM by Gosicrystal

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#25: Jul 23rd 2017 at 2:43:59 AM

Well, from this page's own description:

It should be noted that other sources will refer to any fiction that draws attention to its fictionality as "Breaking the Fourth Wall". Our definition is a bit narrower: Breaking The Fourth Wall only occurs if the characters acknowledge the audience or the author, whether directly or indirectly, got it? It's not enough that I recognize my status as a wiki page, it's the fact that I'm commenting to you about it!"

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11th Jul '17 8:00:05 PM

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