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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#1: Apr 9th 2017 at 2:33:06 PM

Can somebody point out to me how The Jinx and Lethal Klutz differ? First I thought the Lethal Klutz is causing chaos around him while The Jinx just attract it but it's in both description that they are the cause of the calamity wherever they go.

Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#2: Apr 9th 2017 at 3:24:37 PM

A klutz directly causes problems, generally through clumsiness. A Jinx doesn't directly cause the problems, they just happen whenever they are around.

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#3: Apr 9th 2017 at 6:17:56 PM

Okay, then my first suspicion was right.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#4: Apr 9th 2017 at 7:28:35 PM

You're also correct that the descriptions for both neglect defining that aspect, and The Lethal Klutz even implies that they aren't directly responsible for the destruction. There's also unmentioned tropes, like I'm certain that Walking Techbane is a specialized version of The Jinx. Some room for improvement, I think.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#5: Apr 10th 2017 at 11:36:07 AM

And Doom Magnet is the lethal version of The Jinx?

edited 10th Apr '17 11:42:50 AM by eroock

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#6: Apr 10th 2017 at 4:39:04 PM

That's the claim, but at least one example of "doom" has a body count of zero, which starts to make them very similar.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#7: Apr 27th 2017 at 7:57:31 PM

Related question to the tropes above: How would you contrast Doom Magnet and Walking Disaster Area? Both are about characters dragging doom behind them for those around. Is WDM the more extreme body count version of DM? If so, what's the cut-off figure?

edited 29th Apr '17 9:09:07 PM by eroock

Getta Since: Apr, 2016
#8: Apr 28th 2017 at 2:39:25 PM

[up] WDA says "Doom Magnet is for when this directly affects the supporting cast of the main character and they start dropping like flies."

...Now I'm not sure if that sounds like a fine distinction.

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justanid Since: Jan, 2010
#9: Apr 29th 2017 at 11:01:41 PM

Is there enough of a distinction between The Klutz and The Jinx to warrant two fatal versions (Lethal Klutz and Doom Magnet) for each? Also, Walking Disaster Area and Doom Magnet come across as duplicates. So maybe a merging of WDA and DM into Lethal Jinx or merging LK and DM into a generic Walking Disaster Area).

TRS?

Getta Since: Apr, 2016
#10: Apr 30th 2017 at 10:34:35 AM

[up] Yes

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