I'm still not sure which one is the truth and which is the lie because of the combination of the lack of context and my elementary Japanese skill, but one thing for sure; Ouma is chaotic, but he got the right idea. He caught on from Kaede's execution that the entire game is a sham for sake of putting up an exciting show, mostly because Amami is the one who got the dibs on the knowledge of the world's condition and Kaede's scheme is directly dangerous toward the Mastermind.
The Ultimate Hunt is, as seen from the name, a hunt done by the mass public on the SHSL students. The detail about what they're doing with the Ultimates other than the Kaede's kidnapping scene and Saihara being chased by shadowy figures, we got no context, mostly because the only one who know it (Amami) is dead and his video is cut short. Ouma is sorta obsessed with Amami because of this. It's like the Biggest, Most Awful Incident back in Danganronpa 1; the calamity is the background setting, but has little relevance toward the current plot of the Gifted Inmates.
edited 21st Jan '17 1:28:16 PM by AlaAlba
As usual, my Twitter thread for chapter 3.
I was informed that there was lots of misconceptions about chapter 2 circulating online, so I really recommend reading my complete thread for that one to see what actually happened.
edited 26th Jan '17 9:10:37 AM by Bionicman
Sorry for the repeated post.
edited 9th Feb '17 5:42:32 AM by Comun
Does anybody have a translation of the first Scrum Debate in Chapter 1? Or any chapters?!
Please!?
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.About the part where ouma is ambigously gay, I think it is quite strange to use the part where he calls beloved amami chan as a proof since he also calls beloved kaede chan and cry after the first killer has jut been executed which the words used for both people are the same in japanese where the only difference is the names, and about the statue, actually ouma has gathered most evidence related to each case in his room and since his purpose is to end the killing game and amami is the survivor of previous killing game , it is very possible that the statue is the award for rantarou and the statue is just one of the collection of evidences but for the latter parts it is just a speculation so I can;t say for sure. My point is I think this cannot be used as a hint. Another thing is that there is no hint that he is not interested in girls at all
edited 5th Feb '17 2:57:58 PM by yuyayuzu
He's relationship with Saihara is borderline Foe Yay. And if he wants to take evidence for the third case, he should take Kaede's statue as it was the thing that was used in the locked room trick. Not that I deny that he indeed took evidences, but his choice is baffling as it's already established that he also obsessed with Amami (for sake of his usual plotting or else, not sure). Sure, he agrees with Miu's offer to "ero ero", but then Miu is always only talking big and Ouma knows that she's pretty harmless otherwise.
One thing clear about Ouma is that he's so easily misunderstood because he's always playing devil's advocate.
Someone made the first part of chapter 1's translation, but I forgot to save the link. First chapter Scrum Debate is basically discussing whether Saihara can be the culprit or no, based on Kaede's perjury that covers him up about who could possibly set up the camera.
edited 6th Feb '17 2:10:25 PM by AlaAlba
It is okay to use saihara part as a hint which may both true and false since he is a liar , you will never know if he is even serious but I really wonder if you can use the part with amami as a hint : since they barely interact with each other in the game and I cannot see that he is obsessed with amami even if the amami statue is in his room also i didn't intend to say he use this as evidence for case 3 i think it is possible that at that time he had already known that amami is the survivor of previous games If you want to say he is obsessed by this, he can be this even to kaede where in fte2 : he asked kaede to join his organization which kaede refuse but before the refuse he gives advice to kaede that if she keeps rushing with the common sense which she believe true may not be true for everyone else she may end up doing something which has no turning back point, also just before kaede is executed, he says with a serious face that kaede is not boring which relate to the line I am not boring;aint I in chapter 5 in kaito's flashback and I think the character ouma itself is alternate character intepretation , : chapter2 , when kirumi is about to be executed, he says to kurumi that if we don;t sacrifice ourselves, what should you do? can be seen as a hint for kirumi to run away, if he wants kirumi to be executed, he could just tell other people that kirumi is trying to run away : chapter3 , when himeko is enduring her cry, he says that yumeno is lying to her own feelings, if he really is just a jerkass, he could just leave yumeno like that : chapter 4 when gonta is about executed, he cried but after gonta is executed, he sounds like he is making fun of gonta but to think about it, if he realy is a jerkass, then he needn't even to shed tears for gonta since he is going to be executed anyways, if he wants to gain everybody else trust by doing this , then he needn;t to sound like he is making fun of it after gonta execution since it would certainly make other people believe he is the mastermind
edited 6th Feb '17 10:13:04 PM by yuyayuzu
Is there a tropes for this? It is about miu iruma, she is machochist which the evidence can be found on school mode where there is a scene with her and akamatsu and togami together which near the end she went tsundere mode when togami is being sarcastic on her and she says it doesn;t feel bad to be ignored and about ouma, I think he is quite similar to kirigiri where they : tend to gather evidence and do things alone
edited 13th Feb '17 12:51:21 AM by yuyayuzu
Forgot to post the chapter 5 thread, sorry.
Finished the game two days ago but forgot to post here in thread, sorry.
All I have to say is that even two days after fact, I'm still very overcome with emotion from this ending. I'm still about to cry as I write this. The themes were strong and well-executed. The twist that sound the worst on paper are the ones that add more weight to the amazing conclusion. Shirogane is by all means a more entertaining version of Junko and with more symbolic meaning to boot. And more than anything, the characters have never felt so alive before. V3 was not my favorite game of the franchise, but it had BY FAR the strongest finale. I have nothing but words of praise for chapter 6.
The epilogue was not my cup of tea, but when one of the story's main aesops is "Everything is up to your interpretation", it would very wrong not to make it open ended.
That said, I'm still completely on how Kodaka managed to make the Torch the Franchise and Run trope feel earned and in a way that makes you appreciate not only the Dangan Ronpa franchise but fiction as whole even more. My sincerest thanks and congratulations to everyone involved.
Normally, I would just link my chapter 6 tweets here, but in consideration to chapter 6's content, I'll link the index to all the threads instead. V3's ending is an ending that is definitely meaningless with out the whole process. If you're going to read my comments, please read the entire thing instead of only chapter 6.
Nice to hear some positivity towards the finale. Still curious to see how they're going to follow this up.
This song needs more love.Frankly there's not a lot from the ending to dislike. My annoyance is aimed at the creators.
What are you annoyed at them for?
Oh, I see. That's a part I feel completely irrelevant, but I understand the hypocrisy of it and I guess it's a valid reason to dislike it. More than a Take That, Audience!, it felt much more like Kodaka saying he grew too emotional to write this kind of game and wanted to part ways with the franchise, but in a way fans can agree with the idea of not wanting Dangan Ronpa anymore. I'm planning on a bigger write-up on chapter 6 later, so I'll link it here when I'm done.
Ironically, that's such a Junko thing to do; putting people in a situation and then blaming and calling them out for the results, even if obviously nobody's locking up players in a death-rigged school with a Danganronpa game in real life.
I mean, yet.
edited 25th Feb '17 4:44:56 PM by NapoleonDeCheese
There's finally a translation for the game on Youtube, so now I can experience the story without using the wiki.
Have I mentioned that I love this game's soundtrack? I could listen to the Scrum Debate theme for hours on end.
Side note: I find out intriguing how Everything we know about the outside world comes from one of three sources (Oma, Rantaro, or Shirogane) and all three of them are super UnreliableNarrators.
edited 17th Mar '17 2:26:52 PM by LinkToTheFuture
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas EdisonNot related to the game, but Leva Batles TNA wrestle cosplayed as Junko in a match.
Mileena MadnessYeah, I fucking love that soundtrack too. I'm also pretty fond of the mechanic. Kinda wonder how it would work in the previous Danganronpa games like when they would have taken place in every trial, who would be on which side, etc.
Headcanon of the day: Kiibo is actually a Blue Lantern robot from Star Trek/Green Lantern: The Spectrum War. Evidence? He shoots Hope Lasers when he tries to destroy the school.
edited 23rd Apr '17 4:31:40 PM by fredhot16
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.Not to mention Amami's info comes from Shirogane and Ouma is half him lying and half info fabricated by the game's staff. In hindsight, Shirogane is the only source.
Damn it all, why the hell is the English version coming out in September?
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Oh wow if so then that fixes some issues I have with the ending, namely the revelation that the cast are not real & that except Kokichi were a bunch of murderous jackasses such as Kaito or Shuichi were revealed to be. I always thought the mastermind was just lying about everything, I mean what incentive would they have to tell the truth honestly? Wait there was an Ultimate Hunt?
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."