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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#1: Dec 12th 2016 at 11:15:02 AM

The similarity between Trigger and Trauma Button were brought up in Ask The Tropers. As it stands, Trigger's description tries to be about the narrow application of the word to Post-Traumatic stress response, while acknowledging the word is much more flexible. Trauma Button, on the other hand, is written more from the storytelling perspective of character reactions.

Trigger has apparently been under review in the past; see page discussion and the fact that most of the old description has been moved to Useful Notes, where it explains the various types of triggers and their Real Life effects/connections.

~Fighteer's opinion in the ATT thread was that we should not be using the term for this trope, given the serious nature of the subject and the Hollywood Psych treatment in fiction.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#2: Dec 12th 2016 at 11:36:37 AM

Opened.

Since the curly braces don't work with workshop threads, will remove them so the page can be tagged.

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#3: Dec 12th 2016 at 11:48:14 AM

Yeah...this as a trope needs to die. It's one of, if not the most subjective trope ever (and it burns so well too!)

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4: Dec 12th 2016 at 2:10:11 PM

Merging Trigger with Trauma Button sounds like a good idea. Any discussion of triggers in regards to popular media is already serviced by the UN page.

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gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
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#5: Dec 12th 2016 at 3:53:57 PM

I agree with Morgenthaler and crazysamaritan on this one. Given the serious nature of the subject and the fact that we don't want to have a Flame Bait, I think this trope should not be used on wiki pages.

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#7: Dec 12th 2016 at 6:46:24 PM

Yeah, Trauma Button seems to sum up everything trope-worthy about it. Seconding the vote to merge.

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#8: Dec 12th 2016 at 8:59:19 PM

A merge sounds like a plan. Adding my vote for that.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#9: Dec 13th 2016 at 5:18:32 AM

Ditto. Wondering if we have a Trigger Warning trope, though - not for the In-Universe aspect but for those on works, such as the one mentioned in the Worm example.

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everlasting First of Her Name, The Unburnt, Queen of the And Since: Apr, 2014
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#10: Dec 15th 2016 at 4:11:59 PM

Adding a vote to merge

tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#11: Dec 16th 2016 at 9:12:44 AM

splice it like a teleportation experiment gone horribly wrong!

shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#12: Dec 16th 2016 at 3:15:51 PM

I agree with Merging (and possibly going with Trauma Trigger as a name instead of button since it's the real life medical term).

The situation now just seems like a case of the same trope page somehow getting made twice under differnt names.

edited 16th Dec '16 3:16:18 PM by shoboni

SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#13: Jan 17th 2017 at 1:30:58 AM

Clock is ticking.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#14: Jan 17th 2017 at 5:07:11 AM

A month with no dissenting voice? Beginning the merge.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#15: Jan 17th 2017 at 5:22:42 AM

Page moved (indexes pointing at Trauma Button and examples on that page). Wicks, discussion, and Trope Rename thread yet to be done.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#16: Jan 22nd 2017 at 3:31:34 AM

Wicks

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AmourMitts Since: Jan, 2016
#17: Mar 21st 2017 at 4:43:26 PM

Looks like nobody's changed the wicks yet...

shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#18: Mar 21st 2017 at 7:20:50 PM

Should I make a TRS about renaming or should we do that here?

I'm still in support of changing it to Trauma Trigger since trigger is the actual medical term and makes the intent more clear to avoid this kind of misunderstanding.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#19: Mar 22nd 2017 at 8:40:14 AM

It'd be its own thread. And you'd need to provide evidence of an actual issue.

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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#20: Mar 22nd 2017 at 11:02:12 AM

I think the the fact the confusing name lead to Trigger being made an entirely different trope constitutes the issue and the change would be proactive to stop something like that from repeating itself.

If there's an actual term we should be using it to avoid those snafus.

edited 22nd Mar '17 11:02:33 AM by shoboni

Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#21: Apr 14th 2017 at 1:07:27 AM

I've been idly working on the wicks in dribs and drabs, and I've found a moderate amount of misuse for Berserk Button as well as...one other trope which I can't remember at the moment, but as soon as I do, I'll add it to this post for future reference (for me, if no one elsetongue).

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#22: Oct 24th 2017 at 10:36:22 AM

Down to 207 wicks.

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malias Since: Jun, 2015
#23: Oct 30th 2017 at 2:07:41 PM

Well, with the exception of one ghost wick, all the wicks have been moved over to Trauma Button.

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#24: Oct 30th 2017 at 5:06:41 PM

All right then. Calling this done.

Edit: I have noted the merge in the discussion tab.

edited 30th Oct '17 5:10:09 PM by Berrenta

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