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Let me see if there are some genuine questions on the Headscratchers page...
- It sounds like something Avex Trax would do, especially with artists like Ayumi Hamasaki, on cover videos. Avex Trax are such dicks when it comes to copyright. May I please just hear a Japanese song on You Tube without your name flashing across my monitor with a message that reads 'This Video was deleted'?!
The Headscratcher itself seems genuine, but the response is definitely complain-y.
- Simple question of popularity and probability. Between the U.S., Britain, and English being the lingua franca of the modern world, the majority of internet users (and, by extension, You Tube users) are English speakers. English subs therefore get a lot more popular than Spanish or German subs, and they are more likely to get themselves noticed by the copyright holders who will then send a letter to You Tube asking them to take them down.
Looks perfectly fine to me.
- Maybe they saw a copy from another site and uploaded it to You Tube without knowing the popular video was already there. Then there are the people who know, but do it any way so they will get views. A video with a lot of views brings status, even if it is in their own heads... it's kind of hard to explain. In gift economies, like You Tube (where people go through the effort of uploading videos for others to see and pretty much no gain to them at all), there are ways, such as view counts or diggs (if you go to that site) to measure your worth in some way. They are a sort of scavenger, if you will, getting some free reputation by reposting something that something that is already popular. It's part ego, part perception of self-worth, part something hard to define. Oh, and there is also redundancy, in case the original video gets taken down. That's good, too.
There is a hint of complain-y vibes here, but I think it's fine for the most part.
- New tags for finding videos.
Looks alright to me.
- "I can understand videos containing violence, swearing, etc." I can't. Allow a little censorship and more follows, either because "objectionable content" provides a good excuse to silence people whose opinions you don't like or (more likely in this case) because the censors have got no incentives to reduce false positives and every incentive to make sure not a single site with "controversial" content pops through, leading them to be very, very conservative in their algorithms.
- Ah, Captain Overreaction, I'm glad you could make it. He said it was set up by his school. If they allow videos with "R-rated" material, they could get the crap sued out of them by a parent.
- Nothing? In that case, let's allow access to paedophilia. Some people view it as perfectly legit. And porn in general - after all, it's perfectly natural for a man and woman to have bum love.
- In answer to your actual question the blocking will be based on the tags on the videos and the music you were trying to listen to probably had video games in its tags which i would assume was one of the tags banned by your school to stop people watching gaming videos in lessons.
- "I can understand videos containing violence, swearing, etc." I can't. Allow a little censorship and more follows, either because "objectionable content" provides a good excuse to silence people whose opinions you don't like or (more likely in this case) because the censors have got no incentives to reduce false positives and every incentive to make sure not a single site with "controversial" content pops through, leading them to be very, very conservative in their algorithms.
This one's kind of an odd case. The question itself and the last reply look fine to me, but the replies in between are... rather questionable.
- Similar thing happened with me. I watched The Good, the Bad and the Ugly in parts on Youtube, and the only scene that had been taken down for copyright was the last scene. And another channel filled with The Avengers (2012) clips only got one taken down, which was the one I liked... (Pepperony)
- Dollars to donuts that both deleted examples had high numbers of views, enough for the owners to notice, but the others didn't. Execs have busy days and/or are lazy, so they just issue takedown on the one that gets noticed without bothering to search for others that might similarly be cutting on their bottom line.
- Similar thing happened with me. I watched The Good, the Bad and the Ugly in parts on Youtube, and the only scene that had been taken down for copyright was the last scene. And another channel filled with The Avengers (2012) clips only got one taken down, which was the one I liked... (Pepperony)
I think this one is a keeper.
Good grief, there are a lot of entries, but from what I can see I don't think we need to cut the page. There appears to be an equal number of genuine and complain-y entries, so it looks like we may need to simply purge the complaining.
edited 9th Dec '16 6:09:29 PM by Psychedelicate
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Let's face it: Let's look at how much content gets posted on You Tube within an hour and tell me how you can get paid watching random crap for around 8 hours without losing your sanity. So multiply the cost of hiring people to police the site every hour by an few dozen and you might have an idea on how expensive this'll be. Instead of hiring an small army of overworked mods, it'll be much cheaper to install an flawed system and drag your heels on improving it.
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- This is just me, but why do people put fan-dubs of their favourite Anime Theme Song (of them singing) just for Youtube to take them down? Is it illegal to make an English translation of a well-known Foreign song and sing it?
It sounds like something Avex Trax would do, especially with artists like Ayumi Hamasaki, on cover videos. Avex Trax are such dicks when it comes to copyright. May I please just hear a Japanese song on You Tube without your name flashing across my monitor with a message that reads 'This Video was deleted'?!
- You know how whenever a new episode for an anime comes out and you have to scramble to find subbed ones before they get removed? Why do they only remove the English subs and not the Spanish or German ones?
Simple question of popularity and probability. Between the U.S., Britain, and English being the lingua franca of the modern world, the majority of internet users (and, by extension, You Tube users) are English speakers. English subs therefore get a lot more popular than Spanish or German subs, and they are more likely to get themselves noticed by the copyright holders who will then send a letter to You Tube asking them to take them down.
- Why are there multiple copies of a popular video when the original is still intact? I can understand if the video was flagged, but if it's still available? Really?
Maybe they saw a copy from another site and uploaded it to You Tube without knowing the popular video was already there. Then there are the people who know, but do it any way so they will get views. A video with a lot of views brings status, even if it is in their own heads... it's kind of hard to explain. In gift economies, like You Tube (where people go through the effort of uploading videos for others to see and pretty much no gain to them at all), there are ways, such as view counts or diggs (if you go to that site) to measure your worth in some way. They are a sort of scavenger, if you will, getting some free reputation by reposting something that something that is already popular. It's part ego, part perception of self-worth, part something hard to define. Oh, and there is also redundancy, in case the original video gets taken down. That's good, too.
- What the heck is with the orange box things in the comments?
New tags for finding videos.
- A few months ago, my school apparently set up You Tube's Safety Mode on all computers. What exactly are the standards considered for a video to be "unwatchable"? I can understand videos containing violence, swearing, etc., but I couldn't listen to a song from a video game, a song that was purely instrumental at that! Is it (maybe) because of the comments?
Ah, Captain Overreaction, I'm glad you could make it. He said it was set up by his school. If they allow videos with "R-rated" material, they could get the crap sued out of them by a parent.
Nothing? In that case, let's allow access to paedophilia. Some people view it as perfectly legit. And porn in general - after all, it's perfectly natural for a man and woman to have bum love.
In answer to your actual question the blocking will be based on the tags on the videos and the music you were trying to listen to probably had video games in its tags which i would assume was one of the tags banned by your school to stop people watching gaming videos in lessons.
- There was an entire album on Youtube and ONE of them was deleted because it was owned by UMG. I'm glad the rest weren't but... what?
Similar thing happened with me. I watched The Good, the Bad and the Ugly in parts on Youtube, and the only scene that had been taken down for copyright was the last scene. And another channel filled with The Avengers (2012) clips only got one taken down, which was the one I liked... (Pepperony)
Dollars to donuts that both deleted examples had high numbers of views, enough for the owners to notice, but the others didn't. Execs have busy days and/or are lazy, so they just issue takedown on the one that gets noticed without bothering to search for others that might similarly be cutting on their bottom line.
I'd change the ones you quoted as I've marked. That clears out the complaining , while leaving valid questions and helpful, neutral answers
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Double-posting because of character limit. About their comment section: Go ahead and compare politics, religion, and homosexuality on the web; because I'm pretty sure that at least one of the above (obscurely) advocates killing off anyone who disagrees. Which, in turn, causes the flame wars that the site is infamous for. So why not ban these two topics? Since the first is based on an flawed system and the other is an part of the reason why religion causes violent "I'M HOLIER THAN YOU! SO STFU!" posts.
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Awesome, thanks. I'll get started on that.
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A good chunk of the content on this page appears to be complaining about You Tube's system and the changes made over the years. The last one is pretty much the icing on the cake.
Furthermore, You Tube already has two pages dedicated entirely to complaining about it: ScrappyMechanic.You Tube and TheyChangedItNowItSucks.You Tube.