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Deadlock Clock: Jan 16th 2017 at 11:59:00 PM
Tahaneira Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#1: Dec 5th 2016 at 3:20:40 PM

On the one hand, we have Glurge.

On the other hand, we have Glurge Addict.

The two seem to use very different definitions of 'glurge.'

Googling the term also reveals varying definitions, so I honestly have no idea which is the correct one, if there is a correct definition. However, something here needs to change, since Glurge is ultimately sinister and Glurge Addict is entirely lighthearted.

As for what needs to be done, fucked if I know. I just noticed the problem, and decided it should be brought to light.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#2: Dec 5th 2016 at 3:45:25 PM

Opening.

First thing would be to clear the snideness and dismissiveness out of Glurge. Yes, one of its characteristics is that its overwhelmingly optimistic, sweet or encouraging, but that page is largely complaining.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#3: Dec 5th 2016 at 5:59:17 PM

Our definition is a little off from the one actually found in dictionaries, e.g. [1]. Not terribly off, but I trust lexicographers to track usage better than I'd trust...well, us.

So that's one thing.

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DustSnitch Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4: Dec 5th 2016 at 11:18:51 PM

The definition for Glurge is too broad, but I think narrowing it to Glurge Addict's definition would just make it Tastes Like Diabetes. Either way, Glurge could definitely use an example purge.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#5: Dec 5th 2016 at 11:32:58 PM

I think perhaps if we start with the dictionary definition in 3, rather than the complaining one we have now, we can make the distinction between Glurge and Glurge Addict clearer. I really don't think a literary form and a character are the same trope.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
YasminPerry Since: May, 2015
#6: Dec 6th 2016 at 3:42:02 PM

There's also this: Wisegeek article. Whether or not it's a reliable source, I've no idea.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#7: Dec 6th 2016 at 3:47:39 PM

[up] I just read it. That article is a way better description of Glurge than what we've currently got. If we use that as a basis for our page, it will also help with the problem of Glurge Addict by allowing us to clear out the "This character likes cute things" bad examples.

edited 6th Dec '16 3:49:46 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#8: Jan 13th 2017 at 1:30:02 AM

Clock is ticking.

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Getta Since: Apr, 2016
#9: Jan 13th 2017 at 6:16:32 AM

Turn it into a disambig I guess? Like what we did with Badass or Mary Sue, we note that there are many things referred to as "Glurge".

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Jan 18th 2017 at 12:20:19 AM

Clock expired with no progress, closing.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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