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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#1: Jun 14th 2016 at 3:53:17 PM

This image tanked in the suggestion thread. Any other ideas?

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#3: Jun 14th 2016 at 8:12:17 PM

It's a good visual but I'm not sure that it completely nails the trope.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4: Jun 14th 2016 at 8:42:53 PM

I'm curious to know why the original suggestion didn't make it. It definitely fits the definition of "carnivores are often evil, and all the heroes are herbivores".

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#5: Jun 15th 2016 at 4:00:39 AM

[up] The facts are right in the image, but the brontosaurus' snaky neck lessens the message.

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#6: Jun 15th 2016 at 4:03:49 AM

[up][up]It's not really obvious that the brontosaurus is the hero. Also, the image is really grainy.

I really like @2, though.

edited 15th Jun '16 4:05:13 AM by Adept

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#7: Jun 15th 2016 at 4:07:44 AM

A different take then? Not sure how well it's going to look in wiki size though.

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#10: Jun 15th 2016 at 5:27:47 AM

[up]That's nice, although that may count as spoiler since Nick is one of the main protagonist.

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#11: Jun 15th 2016 at 6:40:51 PM

What about the earlier scene where they show predator/prey relationships in a school play?

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#13: Jun 16th 2016 at 4:58:04 AM

[up] Either of those is good; I lean toward the first.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#14: Jun 16th 2016 at 6:47:10 AM

I think all suggestions show Predators Are Predators. That's not really the point, is it?

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#15: Jun 16th 2016 at 4:04:15 PM

Perhaps if we show a montage of Disney animal villains (all of which I guess are predators).

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#16: Jun 16th 2016 at 10:13:07 PM

[up]The only "carnivorous animal villains" I remember from Disney are from Lion King, Robin Hood and Jungle Book, although the fact that the heroes of those films are also carnivores really doesn't help.

Here's one from Robin Hood

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#17: Jun 16th 2016 at 11:08:09 PM

Would need one without heroic foxes or other predators. I'm not sure Prince John is even an example, since him being a lion is most likely for other reasons.

edited 16th Jun '16 11:13:15 PM by AnotherDuck

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#18: Jun 17th 2016 at 1:46:56 AM

What exactly does it take for an image to depict the trope beyond just being Predators Are Predators?

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#19: Jun 17th 2016 at 2:14:32 AM

I think it's a faulty criticism. Predators Are Predators is the entire point of the trope—their predatory behavior makes them evil.

In fiction, particularly if the prey can talk, carnivores are often evil, and all the heroes are herbivores. The predator's desire to eat the prey makes the predator a villain, or at least, a Designated Villain.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#20: Jun 17th 2016 at 1:41:55 PM

Then you've got People Sit On Chairs. Predators hunt prey. There's no meaning in that. It just is. Showing predators as villains because of that, however, is a trope. That's what we need to show.

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#21: Jun 18th 2016 at 12:06:25 PM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/rsz_sharptooth.png
I don't suppose this is any better?

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#22: Jun 18th 2016 at 12:49:28 PM

Would the pic on Western Animation work better here?

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#24: Jun 18th 2016 at 6:00:44 PM

Hmmmm...yeah, it just might.

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#25: Jun 19th 2016 at 4:55:14 AM

That could very well be the case.

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