subtle cissexist heterosexualist Intersex-erasure from parents

(I couldn’t find a term for thinks non-intersex (or even a better term than non-intersex) is normal)

I have a mother who has ‘traditional’ views on gender and sexual orientation. Her youngest (at 16) John/Charity (assigned male at birth) is genderfluid [[Bisexual pansexual]] and just gained an intersex-like condition (a hiveMind GenderBender).

To give you some idea of how serious her ‘traditional’ views are: She thinks the LDS program will ‘cure’ her John (it won’t it based on self-love and self-control (To put it in context LDS boys are also taught to control their feelings and actions to towards ‘girls’ as well)); won’t consider putting John/Charity’s female-type body in the same room as John (because ‘she’s a girl) or Brenda (because Charity’s isn’t a ‘real’ girl) but sees no problem putting her eldest son Zack in the same room as John/Charity’s male-type body if and when he came home from college; and falls into the fallacy of trans* is extreme gay. She not bigoted just misguided in fact she would be horrified to know she was harming her child but John/Charity is the main one that knows she hold these views and they are too depressed/apathetic at the moment to call their mother out.

I was wondering if anybody has ideas of other ways she could show her ‘traditional’ attitude.

(edited 6/2/2016 based on comments: streamlined intro post to bare est)

edited 2nd Jun '16 5:01:49 PM by miiohau

That is a whack of jargon. Please don't use acronyms in first use of a term in a thread. You will lose people.

I would also note than Meyers Briggs is usually almost completely irrelevant to anything. I bet I could find some science to back up that claim if I needed. Also, almost no one will know what you are talking about.

Wait, she thinks trans is extreme gay and she has no problem putting her "gay" son in the same room with her other son? Surely she must know gay is contagious.

That does not sound like subtle prejudice.

I know all those words...just the way they're put together is scrambling my brain.

I'm not sure exactly where intersex comes into this. Is your genderfluid character intersex but assigned male? Because I could work with that. But I'm not even sure what you're asking, or why the MBTI thing is so important to this summary. You're being really confusing and frontloading too much information not remotely relevant to what you seem to really want to talk about.

intersex-erasure here probably is a placeholder for anti-intersex bias.

The intersex character is the third child, who is Twinned. One mind, two bodies. Different genders.

-[snip went too far]-

The question is, I am guessing: What other ways can the mother express her prejudice?

edited 1st Jun '16 3:58:32 AM by war877

I am fairly certain the question you should be asking, and not us but yourself, is not "what" but rather "why"; as in, why would she have to be so prejudiced that she is clearly a villain in this tale.

Because from what I saw in your writing so far, and I will note that I am not a religious person and even I can see it, it appears that her character is in your story for the sole purpose of using her to show why religious people and religion both are evil and nonsensical, which kind of counts as bashing and probably isn't something that should be done. And if she knows enough to know that one of her daughters and sons are actually a one person (and I ignore the fact that such a thing is not really possible so you have a supernatural element going on there), as evidenced by what you wrote already, then she should also know enough not to treat them as some kind of ultimate evil just because they exist.

Not to mention that the situation itself is fairly convoluted, at least as far as you present it, and the common use of acronyms—as has already been stated—really doesn't help it at all. So really, what exactly are you trying to write there?

I'm kind of confused as to whether "intersex" is even being used correctly here, though. And it can be subject to erasure, but it feels like that's almost a side-issue given the nature of the bigotry here.

To be fair, fanatical devotion to a religion does not automatically damn the religion, nor does a writer depicting such fanaticism. But it does seem a touch on the nose here...

I am assuming that the conflict between the church and the mother and the protagonist is not going to be the central conflict, but part of a mess that is going on behind the scenes in this setting. The whole twinning thing being linked to the magic coming back and whatnot.

I assume that at some point the mother is going to be pulled between her church and her children, as usually happens in situations like this.

I have absolutely no idea what 80% of these words mean.

I think it means "your parents are trying to force you to gender-identify with your biological sex, and trying to be sneaky about it". Opetative word being "think".

edited 3rd Jun '16 2:09:47 AM by dvorak

Not exactly, no.

"Intersex" refers to people who biologically are neither strictly male or female, whether due to chromosomal abnormalities or more obvious differences in external genitalia: XXY, Turner's syndrome, clitoromegaly, streak gonads, and so forth. Most intersex people are raised either as male or female based on parental preference and are sometimes given surgery in infancy to appear more like that assigned gender. This... doesn't work out very well much of the time, for varied but obvious reasons.

That said, this OP is pretty darned confusing as to what any of this has to do with intersex erasure.