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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#1: Oct 6th 2015 at 4:53:59 PM

The most extreme example of a Time Abyss is usually born around these two periods. So what's the difference between them? When did they occur?

edited 7th Oct '15 8:39:53 AM by superboy313

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#2: Oct 6th 2015 at 9:07:09 PM

They don't occur because this is all theoretical.

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#3: Oct 7th 2015 at 4:20:13 AM

Well, "Before Time" was clearly before the "The Beginning of Time". Not that "Before Time" makes much sense as a concept though. I suppose I could imagine an "older" universe with a completely separate time line, but in that case the word "older" wouldn't really mean anything, would it?

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#4: Oct 7th 2015 at 4:37:25 AM

"Before time" is usually meant in the sense of "before [someone]'s time" or "before time immemorial". After all, nothing could exist before the beginning of time thus nor before time itself was a concept. So based on that, I'd say at the beginning of time is the eldest. But if you accept an existence of something before the beginning of time aka from before time itself began to run, then that would be older, I suppose.

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#5: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:26:19 AM

Also, what does it mean when a character's age is "immemorial"?

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#6: Oct 9th 2015 at 11:26:18 AM

im·me·mo·ri·al
ˌi(m)məˈmôrēəl/
adjective
adjective: immemorial
originating in the distant past; very old.
"an immemorial custom"
synonyms: ancient, (very) old, age-old, antediluvian, timeless, archaic, venerable, long-standing, timeworn, time-honored, tried and true;

Origin
early 17th century: from medieval Latin immemorialis, from in- ‘not’ + memorialis ‘relating to the memory.’
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Use over time for: immemorial

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#7: Oct 9th 2015 at 4:30:39 PM

Yeah, most of the time "time" in those sayings is metaphoric for "history and myth". Which makes something happening before the beginning of time not so paradoxical.

Just to throw the cat among the pidgeons, some interpretations of the Big Bang include a brief (amazing brief) period between the initial "bang" and time actually "starting". Due to spacetime needing the universe to expandg/cool enough for it to start behaving like it does now.

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#8: Oct 10th 2015 at 3:43:09 PM

Depending on the nature of the story, "before time" could mean the character was around before our universe came into being, i.e before God (or whichever creator entity the story used) came around to creating it. So he hung around with God before "Let there be light!" in the vast nothingness of before.

In a slightly more "down-to-earth" approach, this would mean the creature came into being before our dimension (as in before atoms became atoms) existed and lingered into whatever existed before, which is a quite literally incalculable amount of time (namely because "when was our reality forged?" is a far-out question even for science).

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#9: Oct 10th 2015 at 5:15:22 PM

Also, nobody made any "The Land The Beginning of Time" movies.

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#10: Nov 8th 2015 at 9:04:04 PM

English law actually sets a specific date when Time Immemorial ended.

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