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supergod Walking the Earth from the big city Since: Jun, 2012
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#1: May 18th 2015 at 11:53:13 AM

Sorry if I'm doing this incorrectly, but this trope seems to be a bit confusing to me. I have no idea what counts as this except that not everything is explained. The examples don't really help much either. It seems that it would make more sense if some of categories were split into their own pages (and it seems that some already are). It isn't linked to on any work pages either.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#2: May 18th 2015 at 2:57:02 PM

Yeah, I have no idea what this trope is going for either.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3: May 18th 2015 at 3:00:59 PM

"Lack of creativity when supposedly deviating from standard being conventions" is the closest thing I can find.

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eyebones Since: Apr, 2004
#4: May 18th 2015 at 3:35:07 PM

Excellent example of why tropes should not be based on a complaint. Cutlist and move on is my vote. This cannot be saved.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#6: May 18th 2015 at 3:59:18 PM

Reading the trope title, I thought it was going to be something like how monsters are claimed to be different from something else that exists in the story, but actually aren't. Basically Monster as an Informed Attribute. But no, that's not it.

What I can gather from the description and examples is that it's just complaining about Fridge Logic, frequently on assumptions made for the explicit purpose of creating the Fridge Logic in the first place, like taking a Handwave or short line of Techno Babble and assuming it must explain absolutely everything about the situation, with no consideration for alternate or additional explanations, more complicated mechanics, or plain old Unreliable Narrators.

It's sort of like Voodoo Shark, only it makes just as much sense as previously.

I wouldn't miss it if it was cut. Or reworked entirely.

edited 18th May '15 4:11:37 PM by AnotherDuck

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#7: May 18th 2015 at 4:08:36 PM

Throwing in my hat for cut or redefine as "monster as an Informed Attribute" as suggested above.

edited 18th May '15 4:08:48 PM by Karxrida

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#8: May 18th 2015 at 4:44:16 PM

I think that's just trying to add a definition to a name. If someone wants to YKTTW "monster as an Informed Attribute," that's fine, but it shouldn't be this trope.

Our Monsters Are Insufficiently Different found in: 2 articles, excluding discussions.

Since January 1, 2012 this article has brought 11 people to the wiki from non-search engine links.

Nobody will miss this if it's cut.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#9: May 18th 2015 at 5:07:42 PM

Just to clarify: I wasn't suggesting that redefinition. That's just what kind of trope I thought it sounded like.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#10: May 18th 2015 at 8:26:53 PM

I was more addressing Karxrida.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#12: May 19th 2015 at 2:49:34 AM

So this is Cookie Cutter Monsters in works that claim otherwise?

DiamondWeapon Since: Jan, 2001
#13: May 19th 2015 at 5:11:28 AM

Complaining about Fridge Logic in relation to Our Monsters Are Different.

I vote for cutting it.

supergod Walking the Earth from the big city Since: Jun, 2012
Walking the Earth
#14: May 19th 2015 at 6:30:11 PM

I think it should be cut as well, for the record.

For we shall slay evil with logic...
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#15: May 20th 2015 at 8:09:48 PM

I vote cut.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#16: May 22nd 2015 at 12:14:32 AM

And it's cut. Closing.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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