Netflix Daredevil

Because he has no way of knowing whether he'll be able to get to the end of the hall, step into the room, free the kid, and walk out before he runs into a guard or not?

In fact, there's a very good chance he's not going to be able to do that. And isn't it better to have to deal with the guards when you aren't holding onto a kid?

Though I did wonder why he didn't simply sneak past them to rescue the child.

How was he going to sneak past them? There was one hallway to the room and there were guys in the rooms on either side. Even if Matt had snuck down the hallway, as soon as he opens the door, they would hear it. Also, I do believe that the guys were occasionally checking on the door and the hall, going back and forth. So there's really no way he could have sneaked past, opened the door, gotten the kid, and then sneaked past again.

He probably figured his best bet would be to knock everyone out and then just get the kid.

It would have gotten even more dangerous for him and the kid if they'd gotten caught in the middle of escaping. It was highly unlikely he would have been able to sneak the kid out, and with the way the hallway was built, it was more than likely he'd have gotten caught pretty quickly.

Not to mention, there's no telling how the conversation between him and the kid is going to go. She's an abductee. She doesn't know him. There is every possibility that the moment he walks into the room, she's going to start screaming for help because she thinks it's raping time.

Just because you have good intentions doesn't mean the person you're trying to help knows that - a lesson learned by anyone who's ever had to help a wild animal out of a trap.

edited 31st Jul '15 10:06:08 AM by TobiasDrake

According to Daredevil showrunner, Steven De Knight, the Netflix version of the Punisher won't be graphically violent

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit...news/?a=123346

Then what is the fucking point? The Punisher is supposed to be graphically violent. A Punisher without graphic violence would be like a silent, non-joking Deadpool.

It depends on the level of "graphic" we're speaking here.

If he murders people by the boatloads with extreme prejudice, only this time without causing extreme Gorn, then it's still the Punisher. The character can work without Gorn.

if he doesn't kill anyone, then we have a problem.

The Punisher is supposed to be graphically violent.

Um, no, no he isn't. The Punisher debuted in 1974 in the pages of Amazing Spider-Man. There was no graphic violence then. In fact, there was no graphic violence in most Punisher stories.

Later on, Marvel let Garth Ennis write a series for Marvel MAX (which was for R-rated books) called Punisher MAX which had more graphic violence, including a lot of blood and exposed guts. But still most of the graphic stuff was either off-screen or covered up.

So no, the Punisher does not need to have graphic violence.

Yeah. So long as he's killing people, the Punisher is the Punisher regardless of whether we actually see him walking around with someone's intestines slung over his shoulder on-screen.

Fair enough, I suppose. As long as there is a little blood and he does kill criminals.

The victim is a boy not a girl.

It really was a fantastic scene.

edited 31st Jul '15 12:17:09 PM by lackofsense

Also in the fight between Baldy Mc Fat and the Other Russian Guy, I'm pretty sure Anatoly called him a whore. At least it sure sounded like he said whore in Russian.

Eh... you are all reasoning as if "Fight them all" was a risk free option. The risks of "Walk in, walk out" aren't actually that high, given that walls do not mean much to his senses - - he knows where everyone in that apartment is. The only thing likely to go wrong would be the kid making a fuss when he sees him, which is hard to evaluate, but would still let him start fighting unencumbered at that point in time.

Fighting them from the word go guarantees the risk of *loosing the fight*. And this was the same gang that put him in a dumpster. So, you know, victory not guaranteed. Bad risk managment, overall. A proper gambit would have been to call the FBI, then walk in and try to tip toe out. That way, he'd have multiple fall back options.

Plan a: Sneaky extraction. Plan B: If the kid yelps loudly on seeing him? Fight! Plan C: If you loose the fight an FBI tactical team is en route.

Except it's much easier to fight when you don't also have to protect a little kid as well. There's a chance of losing with both options, but the first ("knock everyone out, then save kid") had a better chance of success then the second ("sneak up, save kid, hope nobody notices, but if they do knock them all out while holding onto kid").

So I'm 7 episodes in the series...its definitely pretty damn real.

Honestly, I think he simply wanted to beat those guys down.

Well he's not a conflicted Blood Knight for nothing. And come on, you can't say those guys don't deserve it; the only reason they even kidnapped the kid in the first place was to use him as bait.

I don't disagree that is part of the reason. But I think it is unfair to say it is the absolute worst option. Trying to sneak with the kid would carry big risks as well. It is simply not true to claim he was prioritizing payback over the life of a kid. Both course of actions were dangerous. It is kinda impossible to know which one was the "safer" option, so I guess Daredevil just took the one he liked the best.

Which is 'hit people until they fall down'.

You must admit, it has it's appeal.

And when they're down, hit them again.

Indeed. Daredevil is a guy with issues.

He gets knocked down, but he gets up again.

I love how well that song suits Matt during this series. He's one hell of a Determinator, that's for sure.

edited 2nd Aug '15 10:34:34 AM by ITNW1989

Jon Bernthal on set taking out a dude.