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powerpuffbats Goddess of Nature Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2876: Aug 28th 2016 at 9:37:39 AM

[up]I think it largely depends on the franchise. While on Mario, he certainly tends to axe plot. Not so much for some of the other games like Pikmin 3.

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#2877: Aug 28th 2016 at 9:38:54 AM

I think it's important to know that Nintendo is training a bunch of new workers right now, and they're trying to teach them how to make a Nintendo game a Nintendo game.

What Miyamoto is doing is trying to teach them how to make do with what little they have while still making a stellar game.

The difference here, however, is that they can't be restricted in the same ways that Miyamoto and crew were- so he's challenging them in other ways.

Of course, this means that the games that these new teams get are going to be the side games- ones that aren't that big of a deal if they fuck up. Hence what happened with Sticker Star, Paper Jam, and Color Splash.

So while it does suck that a lot of games are being thrown under the bus as part of the learning process of developing these games, it's completely understandable why.

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#2878: Aug 28th 2016 at 10:04:00 AM

Except for the part where the consumer is being sold low-content class projects as full-price, high-end games.

I'm shocked the eShop hasn't been used more for this kind of thing

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#2879: Aug 28th 2016 at 6:12:04 PM

Generally speaking, Nintendo has been releasing more casual titles since the Wii era.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#2880: Aug 28th 2016 at 7:54:08 PM

Tantalus (Mass Effect 3 Wii U/Deus Ex: Human Revolution Wii U/Twilight Princess HD) is saying they're excited for NX.

Tantalus is the sort of western developer I feel Nintendo should be gunning for. Mid-tier developers who were caught flat-footed when the industry shifted to only allow for AAA and indie titles. The independent ones who are left (admittedly not many) need work, and Nintendo needs western developers. Making original games and new IPs would be ideal, but even just working on ports and remakes would help a lot.

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#2881: Aug 28th 2016 at 8:22:31 PM

[up]Agreed.

Nintendo should let them make an Eternal Darkness game.

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#2882: Aug 29th 2016 at 4:18:00 AM

Hey, they have an in considering they did a pretty good job on the Twilight Princess port.

They're probably more of a porting studio than a full on developer though.

edited 29th Aug '16 4:20:05 AM by edvedd

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#2883: Aug 29th 2016 at 5:20:46 AM

I want Armature Studios (Metroid Prime Trilogy) to work on something since they managed to be the first to get Unreal Engine 4 to run on the Wii U for Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night (something AAA devs said was impossible).

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#2884: Aug 29th 2016 at 6:03:17 AM

[up]Nice!

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#2885: Aug 29th 2016 at 6:57:14 AM

As far as corporate takeovers go, being absorbed by Nintendo is far from the worst fate a Western dev could be faced with- Just ask Retro or Next Level.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#2886: Aug 29th 2016 at 7:05:21 AM

Next Level is still independent. They just signed an exclusivity contract. Which is what I'd like to see Nintendo doing more of, not doing risky buyouts that can easily backfire if everyone talented leaves the studio.

RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010
#2887: Aug 29th 2016 at 7:41:28 AM

It's probably the best scenario I can think of. Better that than to be absorbed by the likes of EA or Take-Two.

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#2888: Aug 29th 2016 at 7:49:58 AM

[up]Anything's better than being absorbed by EA.

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#2889: Aug 29th 2016 at 7:57:00 AM

Touche.

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#2890: Aug 29th 2016 at 8:10:53 AM

Only tangentially related, but EA is actually a really good company to work for- so it's not like they're a huge block of evil.

...just when it comes to game rights they are.

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#2891: Aug 29th 2016 at 8:17:34 AM

[up]Like how Draconian they are with used games?

Like, not everyone can buy games at $60.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#2892: Aug 29th 2016 at 8:24:25 AM

Pretty sure no publisher cares about used games these days.

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#2893: Aug 29th 2016 at 8:26:50 AM

Eh, they're still trying to make the used game market not be a thing, so you might wanna reevaluate that thought.

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#2894: Aug 29th 2016 at 8:32:37 AM

Next Level is still independent. They just signed an exclusivity contract. Which is what I'd like to see Nintendo doing more of, not doing risky buyouts that can easily backfire if everyone talented leaves the studio.
The basics are the same, though you're right in that there's less risk involved for Nintendo in the way they went about it.

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#2895: Aug 29th 2016 at 8:44:46 AM

[up]x4 That's pretty much Nintendo's thing mostly.

EA drops prices after a few months when most of the playerbase have bought the game and then a year later sells it for 60 again but this time with the season pass, all updates etc included.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#2896: Aug 29th 2016 at 8:51:30 AM

I admit I don't specifically know EA's stance on used games, but given the industry stopped complaining about them years ago and the fact that used game trade ins are usually used to help buy new games, I really don't think any publishers have any interest in stopping them. Physically at least, and it's harder to get returns on digital games due to their nature.

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#2897: Aug 29th 2016 at 8:54:53 AM

It was a major windmill for the industry to tilt at for a while, though.

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#2898: Aug 29th 2016 at 8:55:36 AM

That's the thing, though, the industry seems to be pushing more and more for digital as the major platform for purchasing. Same with the film and music industries, but I see a bigger push in video games (and movies/TV). And if people are paying $40-$60 for digital files rather than a disc, that means they can't sell the game to someone else if they decide they don't want it anymore, thus ensuring at least one more sale of the game to a new person (assuming more people want to buy the game).

And with how many people BUY digitally, it's clearly working in their benefit. Less cost to produce discs and packaging, too.

edited 29th Aug '16 8:56:16 AM by Odd1

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RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010
#2899: Aug 29th 2016 at 9:55:37 AM

With the advent of online interactivity and DRM, it's not like you can share physical copies with your friends to try out anyway...

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#2900: Aug 29th 2016 at 10:02:35 AM

[up]This is true for at least this gen:


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