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zsmg Since: Jul, 2011
#2476: Oct 17th 2017 at 2:15:08 AM

I think the vultures are here to take up some of the more extreme greed aspects of Scrooge, which may also explain why they are listed as villains. I don't expect them to be full villains, though, more like Sitcom Arch-Nemesis villains for Scrooge to have economic slap fights with.

Same here I suspect that Doofus will have similar role for the ducklings as the vultures have for Scrooge. An episode antagonist but not the real villain like the Beagle boys.

edit: Page 100 top post, sweet. evil grin

edited 17th Oct '17 2:16:46 AM by zsmg

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#2477: Oct 17th 2017 at 4:15:47 AM

I can't say I'm eager to see Doofus return, I felt he was pretty much the fifth wheel on the wagon in the OD, and most of the times awkwardly shoehorned in, sometimes replacing HD&L altogether for no reason. I mean, why would Scrooge care to take this non-family member along on not just adventures, but highly personal and secret ones, too? Scrooge doesn't strike me as the kind to do family friends, even in his more toned down incarnations. Nevermind that Doofus is a child.

edited 17th Oct '17 5:45:04 AM by Redmess

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n3rd_d4sh plant from Parts Unknown Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
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#2478: Oct 17th 2017 at 5:23:00 AM

Y'know, after recently finding out about it, I think it would be interesting if Paperinik someone got a continuity nod in the series.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#2479: Oct 17th 2017 at 5:51:37 AM

Don Rosa has gone on record saying he didn't hate the old show, he just didn't like it as an adaptation, and he resented the Adaptation Displacement it was subject to.

I'd say you're overstating the extent to which this show takes influence from Rosa, though. There have been a fair few references to Rosa's work, but they're mostly in the form of Mythology Gags. The show's tone and storytelling strikes me as its own thing.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#2480: Oct 17th 2017 at 7:44:08 AM

That he dislikes the original Ducktales because it's a poor adaptation is exactly the reason why he won't like this one.

edited 17th Oct '17 7:49:57 AM by KnownUnknown

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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#2481: Oct 17th 2017 at 8:21:34 AM

On tumbler, there seems to be a growing number of people who are pairing Gladstone and Mark Beaks together. They actually would have a lot of chemistry together, since they seem to have that insufferable trait going for them. On the other hand, I don't think Scrooge would like any of his family dating his competitors. The pairing name is called Glark.

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#2482: Oct 17th 2017 at 8:29:26 AM

Clearly all those who pair them together are never anywhere in the United States. #leaked

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#2483: Oct 17th 2017 at 8:42:31 AM

[up][up][up]Predictably, Don Rosa doesn't seem to like it that much.

https://twitter.com/fourhman/status/911679205221466114

edited 17th Oct '17 9:21:47 AM by megaeliz

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#2484: Oct 17th 2017 at 8:46:04 AM

Well that's mature.

Then again, that sounds like a generous reaction after having to deal with corporate adaptations of your own work for 30 years and having fans assume you only work and/or support the wildly different TV shows. In his shoes, I would probably make that same sign. Creator want readers to value and understand their work.

edited 17th Oct '17 8:52:50 AM by kyun

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#2485: Oct 17th 2017 at 8:56:40 AM

[up] Except he was writing at the exact same time as OG Ducktales, and didn't really influence it, so it's not really an adaptation of his work. I'm pretty sure what he cares about is being as close as possible to Barks works.

I get having the sign so he doesn't get a bunch of people thinking it's something else running up to him, but I think he also may be pushing away potential new fans, who became interested in reading the comics through the show (like me). I'm sure he's a perfectly nice guy, but I think that could have been handled better.

edited 17th Oct '17 9:44:50 AM by megaeliz

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#2486: Oct 17th 2017 at 10:20:30 AM

I guess if you got asked about a cartoon based on your work constantly instead of what you actually worked on you'd get pretty agitated about that. I could see him refusing to check out the new show at all, and just having the sign made preventatively.

edited 17th Oct '17 10:21:07 AM by xanderiskander

InfiniteDreamer Since: Sep, 2017
#2487: Oct 17th 2017 at 10:27:16 AM

Do you guys think that DT 2017 would've been better as a straight 1 to 1 adaptation of Barks/Rosa's stories,instead of it being just inspired by it and them doing their own thing?

edited 17th Oct '17 10:30:18 AM by InfiniteDreamer

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#2488: Oct 17th 2017 at 10:27:23 AM

I can get that, but it's rather sad since the writers seemed to respect his work quite a bit.

It's kinda like being rejected by your idol in a sense.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#2489: Oct 17th 2017 at 10:29:55 AM

Just realized he also might be partially talking about the changes to HD&L for the part of the sign that reads the show has "virtually no similarities whatsoever".

edited 17th Oct '17 10:30:30 AM by xanderiskander

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#2490: Oct 17th 2017 at 10:53:36 AM

I spent this past weekend at my parents' house and I found my father's Uncle Scrooge Comics book. I only read a couple, but one of them (I think it was So Far No Safari) starts with Scrooge showing off what a skinflint he was. Some gophers got into the Money Bin and he was afraid they'd mistake the greenbacks for lettuce and eat his fortune, but when his assistant suggests they pipe gas into the Bin at a cost of "just a couple dollars for the gas", Scrooge moans and asks if there's any cheaper option.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#2491: Oct 17th 2017 at 10:55:18 AM

[up]x4 We have come a long way in what can be done in an animated Television show, and I think a straight adaptation would be a step backwards in terms of storytelling. the types stories of in the comics were mostly pretty similar to OG Ducktales, mostly stand alone adventure type stories with the occasional multi-parter, with little attention to character development or extensive continuity. (With a few obvious exceptions of course)

Although as we've said, there are a lot of differences here, and some people may not like them, the way it's phrased here sort of gives the impression this is more a case of They Changed It, So It Sucks.

edited 3rd Nov '17 3:01:13 AM by megaeliz

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#2492: Oct 17th 2017 at 11:57:35 AM

RE: Don Rosa evidently not liking DT2017:

Okay, nobody show that tweet to the crew of DuckTales (2017).

I'd hate to think of how heartbroken those guys could get...

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#2493: Oct 17th 2017 at 12:06:34 PM

Doubt they'd care, Rosa's kind of an ass about how Ducktales isn't exactly like the comics.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#2494: Oct 17th 2017 at 12:17:41 PM

If the show were just like the comic, people would complain about it not being different enough.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#2495: Oct 17th 2017 at 12:23:58 PM

[up][up] I'm pretty sure he takes Carl Barks more seriously than Carl Barks ever did.

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#2496: Oct 17th 2017 at 12:27:31 PM

He does. Barks was never remotely as obsessed with continuity or consistency in his own work as Rosa is.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#2497: Oct 17th 2017 at 1:11:35 PM

Eh, dude is pretty old so I think he has right to be grumpy about some things [lol]

CitizenH Since: Feb, 2014
#2498: Oct 17th 2017 at 1:57:04 PM

@megaeliz

"One of the things that stood out to me, was the fact that he was going to The Temple of the Golden Cricket to "find out the secrets of the Universe", and spent the whole episode frustrated because everything is conspiring to keep him away from his adventure."

A low key 'earthly distractions keep us away from spiritual enlightenment' message for sure.

Also subverted when the cricket isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Xeroop Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#2499: Oct 17th 2017 at 2:11:23 PM

On Rosa disliking Duck Tales apparently in all forms: he is not only pretty purist of a fan when it comes to Barks, but he is also rather disillusioned by Disney after his arduous experiences on the less-than-stellar career path that is being maker of Disney comics.

edited 17th Oct '17 2:11:51 PM by Xeroop

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#2500: Oct 17th 2017 at 2:20:31 PM

Regardless of what Dona Rosa thinks, I still believe the series is more Truer to the Text than the previous series.

[up][up]

Well, at least at the Casino, Scrooge had a life threatening adventure.

edited 17th Oct '17 2:22:57 PM by firewriter


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