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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#51: Jan 25th 2015 at 9:27:58 PM

Anyone else think the way Joey "lost" to Marik was pretty dumb? Surely passing out in the middle of making the winning move doesn't count...

Worlder What? Since: Jan, 2001
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#52: Jan 25th 2015 at 9:30:56 PM

I want ask do you think Mr. Takahashi is willing to do a version of Yu-Gi-Oh where the Duel Monsters thing didn't become the sole focus of the series?

The spirit of the Puzzle continues to deal punishment to evil-doers through various dangerous, (and occasionally magically charged) challenges. Of course from time to time, villains should be simply outwitted, outplayed, and hoisted by their own petard so as to act as a counter balance to some of the cruelty dealt by the spirit's punishment games.

Personally, I would love to see this how this alternate story would play out as I am most familiar with the characters of the first series.

edited 25th Jan '15 9:32:08 PM by Worlder

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#53: Jan 25th 2015 at 9:46:31 PM

Not happening. At this point, Yu-Gi-Oh! is a Merchandise-Driven property whose main concern is hyping up new cards for people to purchase.

Yes, even the manga. Every volume's sales are boosted by the cards bundled with them.

So, even if Takahashi found a need to do anything (I'm sure he can just live off the Yu-Gi-Oh! money at this point), it would be a new series entirely.

...Besides, he made the card games the main focus due to popular demand. Don't forget that Jump is very cutthroat - to not give the people what they wanted would have put his manga at risk.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#54: Jan 25th 2015 at 9:47:22 PM

The card game was easily the best Shadow Game so it doesn't really bug me.

Worlder What? Since: Jan, 2001
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#55: Jan 25th 2015 at 10:01:39 PM

Still spinoffs have been made before.

I personally I want to know what are the schemes and plans of the big bads if it didn't involve a card game that can potentially act as a conduit for otherworldly forces.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#56: Jan 26th 2015 at 1:07:31 PM

[up]6 No worse than Yugi losing to Pegasus an inch away from winning due to a timer.

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SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#57: Jan 26th 2015 at 1:31:07 PM

[up] In the manga, Dark Yugi could have won that duel, but he refused to play with a timer. All part of his Character Development.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#58: Jan 26th 2015 at 1:42:31 PM

[up] If he refused to play, how did he lose? o.o

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SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#59: Jan 26th 2015 at 3:19:00 PM

[up] I should have worded it differently. It's like he didn't want to use a timer since he believed that Pegasus was being a coward using it (Pride ladies and gentlemen, one of the seven deadly sins), so he acted like there was none. Humorously, the duel is longer in the manga and way more complicated.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#60: Jan 26th 2015 at 3:48:15 PM

So, here's a thought. Shouldn't the government have banned Duel Monsters by now? The game's a freaking WMD. It's been proven time and time again that these cards channel the souls of everything from horrifying demons to genocidal Terminator ripoffs to literal gods, and yet the citizens of the YGO-verse, rather than running in fear from the game, continue to embrace it (many decades into the future by ARC-V's time). Where are the policymakers here? I mean, granted, DM is bigger than baseball (possibly even Jesus) so banning it would be the kiss of death for the career of whoever did it, but there's not one person willing to commit political suicide over this extremely pressing issue? Inquiring minds want to know.

#OccupyIndustrialIllusions2015

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#61: Jan 26th 2015 at 3:56:02 PM

That's an interesting question, but it's the same question in any Mons series.

Pokemon kinda has the excuse of said creatures being around for as long (possibly longer) as humans, and fully integrating into society.

There was one series that explored the danger of such creatures (and this was before it was revealed how bad they really were), but that's not really a Mons thing.

I can only assume these dudes who try get conveniently stabbed by a random Elf Swordsman convinced to change their minds.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#62: Jan 26th 2015 at 4:18:36 PM

There seems to be something of a pro-Duel Monsters lobby in existence (hi, Princeton Brothers), so is there an anti-DM lobby too? Is it a major, politically-charged issue like abortion and gay marriage? Do politicians campaign on pro- or anti-DM platforms? Why do I want to know these things about an anime for ten-year-olds!?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#63: Jan 26th 2015 at 4:31:28 PM

Cause that's the kind of guy you are.tongue

I think, no matter what the medium, everyone asks these questions about something eventually.

It usually leads to stuff like The Jedi are secretly evil, The Autobots being corrupt, other more negative character interpretations of characters who are usually portrayed as heroes.

So it wouldn't surprise me if there are anti duelling groups out there.

They use sniper rifles and land mines, and are realists that even that dude from Crash-Town would find abhorrent.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#64: Jan 26th 2015 at 4:40:15 PM

An arc about an anti-dueling group could be fun, insert Korra joke here.

edited 26th Jan '15 4:59:28 PM by HamburgerTime

Worlder What? Since: Jan, 2001
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#65: Jan 26th 2015 at 6:18:07 PM

Would Weirdness Censor apply?

I supposed it would've been best applied in the first series. Also IIRC GX was set entirely on an island events could be explained away as some Shared Mass Hallucination. Not so sure about the subsequent series though.

edited 26th Jan '15 6:28:49 PM by Worlder

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#66: Jan 27th 2015 at 7:19:42 AM

If Yu-Gi-Oh still followed the early manga/first season anime’s rules, I would LOVE to mess around with the Polymerization card and see what would happen if I combined everything with everything, and if the duel system could handle all the different combinations XD Like mixing Blue-Eyes White Dragon with Kuriboh, or Silver Fang with Leogun.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#67: Jan 27th 2015 at 11:25:15 AM

Speaking of the early manga rules, I know DM was created, like many of the early games, as an homage to an existing game, Magic The Gathering, and wasn't intended to be a real game at first. Thing is I don't know the first thing about Magic, so does anyone know how close the original DM rules are to it?

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#68: Jan 27th 2015 at 1:17:48 PM

With these lines the Shadow Realm is way more horrifying than just being dead.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#69: Jan 27th 2015 at 3:23:27 PM

4kids has done stuff like that more than once. Like, there was a One Piece character who died in a random accident in the original. This was changed to her being beaten within an inch of her life by armed thugs and left paraplegic. Because that's so much better.

edited 27th Jan '15 3:23:49 PM by HamburgerTime

SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#70: Jan 27th 2015 at 3:33:36 PM

[up] You know, for kids!

The Shadow Relm worked in places where the characters came back to life, as it made more sense. In situations like Marik's father, who doesn't comeback, while it's scarier, it then feels like a cheap death aversion.

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#71: Jan 27th 2015 at 4:20:04 PM

So, even if Takahashi found a need to do anything (I'm sure he can just live off the Yu-Gi-Oh! money at this point), it would be a new series entirely.

he's basically been living off YGO money for the last few years anyway. he got pretty lucky as far as making something highly marketable goes.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#72: Jan 27th 2015 at 4:29:39 PM

Is it true he wanted 5D's to be the last series or is that just a rumor?

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#73: Jan 27th 2015 at 4:43:47 PM

i don't know how involved takahashi is in any ygo series past the original, barring providing designs (and i'm not even sure about that myself).

it's kind of unfortunate because he's become a rather good artist since the days of YGO's serialization; he's grown tremendously as a painter, so i'd enjoy seeing more output from him outside of the occasional card illustrations he does.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#74: Jan 27th 2015 at 6:33:35 PM

[up]x4 Clearly people who didn't return from the Shadow Realm, like Marik's dad, had their souls shredded before they could escape :P

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SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#75: Jan 27th 2015 at 6:42:17 PM

[up] Which means he died anyway. Even if the dub version has an ultimately worse fate, it would be simpler just to have him die. In face, Marik's Father was flat out stabbed in the Japanese version (4kids cut out scenes to make it look like he was sent to the Shadow Relm, despite the fact that they didn't play a game first, which I will explain later). Though in the manga, Marik's father gets his back skinned off.

To be honest I'm kind of biased against the dub version, though I don't like it being utterly bashed.

edited 27th Jan '15 6:43:54 PM by SatoshiBakura


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