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The key word there is "fighting" a bunch of jedi. They don't look like they're being scared off. Furthermore, as I already said, the dead girl isn't immediately recognizable as a special character, so that doesn't convey to the reader that the guy is extra dangerous the way impaling the Man of Steel might.
It's Darth Vader. I think he's well known enough to assume that he isn't exactly in trouble. Not to mention Star Wars' Jedi are known enough that they're basically white knights. And he helped kill just about all of them.
As far as I can see, there are two possible ways to illustrate this trope: Show some normally-Bad Ass heroes turning tail and running away from a villain or show the villain killing someone important (preferably a very well-known Bad Ass) to illustrate their high threat level. The Darth Vader image doesn't show anyone running, so it obviously doesn't fall in the first category. That leaves the second category—but since the girl on the floor looks like a mere Red Shirt, it doesn't succeed by that criteria either. We know full well what Darth Vader is capable of, but that particular image does not demonstrate why he's so feared.
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Plus, having to rely on people's pre-knowledge of Vader's abilities in relation to the trope is never a good consideration in pickin' an image.
@75: I disagree. I think the heroes' reaction to the villain is just as important. Thus I'm wondering now Darth Vader is even an example if his own subordinates mouth off to him.
^Where's an example of that where the subordinate walked out of that situation alive? From a movie standpoint, I mean. Because honestly, with the exception of a few situations he either lets them go or they escape.
Although I do get the point.
edited 11th Nov '14 7:21:33 PM by TheArchitectWriterXIII
The Hero Killer is he that kills Heroes, isn't he? Isn't the title itself a spoiler for the show? Most villains have the potential to kill the protagonists - Dr. Drakken from Kim Possible, Aku from Samurai Jack, etc. What sets the Hero Killer apart is that he has actually done what the average villain always intends but seldom achieves: offing one of our surrogates. So, I understand this is an uncomfortable idea to consider, but should we change the image at all? Greivous isn't glamorous in this cartoon still, and neither of the characters are very recognizable; so, the average troper who is interested in the Hero Killer clicks on the Trope's image and learns about Greivous, who is known - from the very first outage in that cartoon in the picture - for killing heroes. The spoilage is minimal, he codifies the trope better than any other character I can remember (after the still that is the Trope Image at this time, every character that fights Greivous receives the sincere concern of the viewer for that hero's safety). I post this because I am worried: why does this trope need a repair? Please, let's not change a solid trope because we find it difficult to separate those villains who kill heroes from those who don't.
edited 13th Nov '14 4:17:35 AM by Az_Tech341
Hey Harmonica, when they do you in, pray that it's someone who knows where to shoot.
The trope right now is ' a strong villain who might kill heroes' no death required, you know pretty much every villain ever, hence the Repair Shop which the current idea is to make it a literal Hero Killer trope for the likes if Grievous and Sephiroth.
edited 12th Nov '14 4:14:54 PM by Memers
Well, then I'm glad it's being repaired. Thank you, hopefully this trope can get set right.
edited 13th Nov '14 4:16:30 AM by Az_Tech341
Hey Harmonica, when they do you in, pray that it's someone who knows where to shoot.
Once the repair shop is done with the trope, I'm still voting for #48 (Wonder Woman) because of clarity.
Absent-minded professor and Neverwinter Nights DM
edited 22nd Nov '14 5:33:38 AM by Az_Tech341
Hey Harmonica, when they do you in, pray that it's someone who knows where to shoot.
The Trope Image could be Grievous' second kill in the Series, composed of two shots - one-above-the-other:
The first shot of the Shaggy Shout-Out Character running out to meet Grievous.
The second shot of Grievous landing squarely on top of him with his taloned feet.
Hey Harmonica, when they do you in, pray that it's someone who knows where to shoot.
A Hanged Man
Something I've noticed here is that people remark on how the heroes being killed in otherwise perfectly good images are not immediately recognizable as heroes. But if someone looks at the title of the page, and reads the trope description, and looks back at the image and sees (hypothetically) Vader on a pile of Jedi corpses, it would be incredibly easy to infer that the sinister dude on top is the Hero Killer and the corpses littered at his feet are heroes. The heroes don't need to be as recognizable as the Hero Killer in the image. The image needs to accurately portray a Hero Killer doing his business; tropers are smart enough to figure out the rest.
edited 4th Dec '14 6:12:00 AM by SignSeeker7
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
Clock is set.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Clock is up with no progress, and there is a TRS going on; closing.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Well then, Darth Vader fighting against a bunch of Jedi could demonstrate why everyone tends to run away from him whenever he arrives on the scene. Save for 4 instances When Obi-Wan fights him (and dies) When Han tries to shoot him (and is disarmed) When Luke tries to fight him (and is literally disarmed) And finally, when Luke beats him for the first time.