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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#1: Sep 4th 2014 at 2:24:07 PM

No, I'm not talking about a Reality-Breaking Paradox. I was just trying to redirect a light novel series from its Japanese name to English.

The Devil Is A Part Timer.

Here's the URL, which includes the redirect:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/LightNovel/TheDevilIsAPartTimer?from=LightNovel.HatarakuMaousama

And on that page, is a Light Novel button at the top, which takes you to:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/LightNovel/TheDevilIsAPartTimer

Uhhh, I'm not sure what to do here, could I get some assistance? I notice the character and other subpages are missing as well. I'm not used to creating redirects.

rexpensive Since: Feb, 2014
#2: Sep 4th 2014 at 2:30:29 PM

I am pretty sure that is how it is supposed to work.

ETA: The problem is the character pages/ other subpages are still under the old name, they all have to be moved and redirect. The light novel button is supposed to be there.

edited 4th Sep '14 2:34:26 PM by rexpensive

rexpensive Since: Feb, 2014
#3: Sep 4th 2014 at 2:36:22 PM

Also the wicks from indexes need to be changed or the page will not be indexed correctly either.

DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#4: Sep 4th 2014 at 2:37:36 PM

Oh darn I was hoping I wouldn't have to redirect the subpages. Last time I did that, I don't believe I had to do any of that.

rexpensive Since: Feb, 2014
#5: Sep 4th 2014 at 2:39:48 PM

Well, it depends on the type of redirect. If you are redirecting in order to change namespaces then all the subpages remain the same, but if you are changing the actual title of the work you have to do them all.

DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#6: Sep 4th 2014 at 2:45:16 PM

Hmmm.. Ok, so for those pages, I'd have to do redirect:Characters/TheDevilIsAPartTimer]] on the character page, and all the others with their respective pages?

rexpensive Since: Feb, 2014
#7: Sep 4th 2014 at 2:59:15 PM

You will need to copy paste the contents of subpagetype/orginalname into subpagetype/newname and then set up a redirect on subpagetype/originalname that points to subpagetype/newname

Or you could just cutlist the subpages under the Japanese name if they have no wicks pointing at them. I do not think pointing wicks directly at subpages is very common, we may not need the redirects. *shrug*

DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#8: Sep 4th 2014 at 3:05:25 PM

Ok, I just went through and redirected all the subpages. Everything seems to be in working order, and it was good experience in making redirects.

That just leaves changing the wiks. The old name is still usable though. Hataraku Maousama

Oh yeah, indexing the new subpages as well.

edited 4th Sep '14 3:07:15 PM by DRCEQ

rexpensive Since: Feb, 2014
#9: Sep 4th 2014 at 3:15:09 PM

Looks good. Changing the index wicks is the most important, the other wicks are less important as long as they are being redirected.

TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#10: Sep 4th 2014 at 4:25:22 PM

moved the redirects for you. when you edit a page, https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/LightNovel/TheDevilIsAPartTimer?action=edit in the title bar, if you change the namespace and title to the one you want to edit (in this case I changed it to https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Anime/HatarakuMaousama?action=edit ) you can edit a page for a redirect that has already been made.

The 92 wicks need to be changed manually, you could ask for it to be put on Administrivia.Wick Namespace Migration in the "Edit Requests For Locked Pages" thread, but I don't know whether that is just for moving pages to the right namespace, rather than title alterations.

Some of the wicks will need to be moved to a different page entirely, thanks to having to be moved to "D" (we discount the definite article in lists) from "H".

edited 5th Sep '14 4:24:12 AM by TheOneWhoTropes

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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#11: Sep 4th 2014 at 6:49:53 PM

I'll get around to changing the wicks over the weekend, unless anyone else cares to hit a few of them in the meantime.

TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#12: Sep 5th 2014 at 4:04:13 AM

I've also indexed the subpages that need indexing, moving a page from a Japanese title to an English one is a LOT of work, more work than most namespace moves.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#13: Sep 6th 2014 at 11:26:48 AM

The only thing missing now is moving the wicks from Hataraku Maousama, yeah? I'll see if I can help tomorrow.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#14: Sep 7th 2014 at 3:41:44 AM

The pagemove work is complete now. Also, when you have subpages with no inbounds, cutlisting is the preferred treatment especially with autoindexing subpages like Trivia/ (since redirects there break the index bar).

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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