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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#1: May 27th 2014 at 4:07:05 PM

AAARGH! I NEED TO VENT!

Today I went to see The Valkyrie.

Despite a lot of beautiful performances and magnificent voices and memorable mise-en-scéne (they were all dressed like Nazis, which is to say, very snappily, and the setting was full of modern-military stuff). It was a fucking nightmare. For one thing, it was too long

But character-wise, every time Wotan was involved, I wanted to scream. The Allfather is a disgrace. He is indeed a coward and a fool. His treatment of Sigmund and Brunhilde is downright shameful.

As for Sigmund and Siglinda... ehhhhhh. You can't help but pity them.

But the thing that really pissed me off with this story was the Department of Redundancy Department. Why say things in a few words when you can say so with a series of monologues? Why have an argument progress swiftly when you can have characters repeating the same talking points in circles? Who the Hell gave Wagner Protection from Editors?!

Still, I couldn't help but reimagine the whole thing in my head as a miniseries in the style of Game of Thrones or Series/Vikings, with lots of beautiful snow imagery, raging battles (*Siegmund takes a Last Stand for the maiden* *he fights valliantly* *look at his pain* *then BAM, his sword shatters* *and CRACK, so does his shield* *wounded, he is impotent to stop the maiden from being finally slain! he barely makes it out with his life!*), forest treks (*the Wolf and the Wolfling are walking the forest, when suddenly, Random Encounter!*), etc. etc. With some editing and abridging, there's potential for something truly beautiful on our TV screens!

edited 27th May '14 4:11:38 PM by TheHandle

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#2: May 27th 2014 at 4:55:40 PM

This is why I've avoided any version of the Ring of the Nibelung that isn't

I agree with Chuck Jones, it's a great work, but I don't know anyone that could sit through the whole thing and come out sane, or even alive.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#3: May 28th 2014 at 1:16:01 AM

The rest of the audience seemeed to pull it off fine. But by the middle of the third act, specifically Wotan and Brunhilde's discussion before he fires her for good, I just couldn't stay awake anymore, and ran away. Also, I really found Wotan's behaviour frankly repulsive.

(the spectacular Copenhagen Ring, for this and other reasons nicknamed the Feminist's Ring) plays it straight with Brünnhilde of all people: she not only manipulated Wotan into accepting her terms of punishment, but chose her future husband in doing so — who is not even born at this point, but has already been named by her. Talk about long-term thinking.

That's the most convoluted Wife Husbandry I've ever seen.

Wotan spends the whole saga trying to keep the ring from falling back into Alberich's hands. Except that all he had to do was return the ring to the Rhinemaidens, which he couldn't do, because he had to pay Fasolt and Fafner for building Valhalla by giving them the ring. And the main reason he built Valhalla was because Fricka hounded him into it. And the only reason she did that was to keep him home and hopefully stop him from running around cheating on her. So in the final analysis, the whole mess could have been avoided if Wotan had just kept his dick in his pants.

edited 28th May '14 2:01:40 AM by TheHandle

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Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#4: May 29th 2014 at 10:26:33 PM

Who the Hell gave Wagner Protection from Editors?!
People who are as egotistical as Wagner was don't have editors. It also helped that the venue his works were performed at was specifically built for him and his works.

I don't think it's too uncommon of an opinion that Wagner was an infinitely better composer than he was a writer of stage drama. And he does not make for a good first introduction to opera. I learned that the hard way.

Fuck, I still haven't sat all the way through Gotterdamerung.

edited 29th May '14 10:30:12 PM by Pannic

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