Changing "Newspaper Comics" folders to "Comic Strips"

Given that the namespace for comic strips is "Comic Strip" and not "Newspaper Comics", does anyone think that any "Newspaper Comics" folders on trope example lists should be changed to "Comic Strips"?

Particularly since many pages throw both newspaper comics and comic books into a "Comics" folder anyway?

It doesn't bother me for them to be listed under either header. Comic strips should definitely be separated from comic books, regardless of which header/folder they go under.

Count me in for moving "Newspaper Comics" to "Comic Strips". The two need to be separated, but that way they're still side-by-side in the examples.

I think Eddie mentioned a preference for "Comic Strips" too as a folder name, on the basis they weren't strictly from newspapers (but also from magazines and the like).

I agree with the name change.

edited 11th Jun '14 9:43:20 AM by Fighteer

Isn't it called newspaper comics to distinguish it from web comics, and comic books? Some newspaper comics are not comic strips, many web comics are comic strips.

For the record, I think that St Fan was referring to this ATT post:

What functional difference is there between a three-panel daily (or weekly) comic printed on paper versus posted on a web page? I mean, clearly there are extrinsic differences, but from the point of view of the art form itself, it's very nearly the same.

For that matter, there's a wide gulf in the format of webcomics between "three panels a day" styles and "full page" styles intended for comic book or trade paperback publication.

edited 11th Jun '14 10:04:59 AM by Fighteer

Webcomic Tropes: most importantly Infinite Canvas.

Easy enough for each to transition to the other, but there's still a medium gap that regular text doesn't have to deal with. Not to mention the ability to hyperlink between pages for webcomics (HTML Footnote Fever!) and the print pages ability to manipulate the texture.

If we want to start cutting down the walls of too-similar formats, animation is my first pick. That one has no actual medium difference, only cultural (and the print vs web also has a cultural difference).

edited 11th Jun '14 2:33:19 PM by crazysamaritan

I think that if even Fighteer and Fast Eddie agree on it being "Comic Strips", then it should be changed. Show of hands?

^^^ There is about as much difference as the difference between a manhwa and a manga. The daily format changes the story telling a bit, as well as the size restriction. Also the fact that the artist is the writer more often in strips effects the type of art used too (there is more copy pasting and limited poses and such with strips, generally)

^^ Yeah, I agree. If it were me the divide would be, like: all animation, all live action, all audio-only, all text-only, etc, breaking it up by medium rather than breaking it up culturally. I can understand why the cultural divide is there, trope do differ from country to country, but if your concern is that we have unnecessary sub-divisions I think that ship has sailed.

edited 27th Jun '14 9:51:14 AM by rexpensive

Live action is split between Television Shows (Series) and Movies (Film). There's an actual medium difference there.

If we're just talking about making (Newspaper, Strip, and Book) Comics into "Comic Strip", I approve.

^ There is an appreciable difference between one-off (movies) and serial (television) works, but it is not as huge as the gaps between, say, literature and music. Like, we do not make the distinction between self-contained novels and series, even though the difference between them is equal to the difference between movies and TV shows.

What I am saying is the systems of categorization is kind of inconsistent across the board. No skin of my back though.

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