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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#276: Sep 27th 2014 at 6:28:06 PM

The ending conversation at issue ten of Escalation was pretty interesting, also playing into my personal theory that ONI will consider chief a threat and try to eliminate him. wild mass guess They will fail,but end up killing Blue team,causing the Chief to go on a roaring rampage of revenge. Locke will be told that the Chief attacked ONI first, and be sent to hunt after him,but the big reveal will be that ONI started the whole thing and is planing a coup against Hood.

On a completely different note wild mass guess John actually obeyed Hood's orders to take a break,it's just his idea of a relaxing vacation is vastly different form normal people's.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#277: Sep 27th 2014 at 6:59:59 PM

Why would they consider humanity's greatest hero a threat?

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#278: Sep 27th 2014 at 7:10:28 PM

[up] I don't know,maybe they think he's gotten to uppity? Maybe they think he's to loyal to Halsey. Or they could just be getting paranoid,Stalin famously purged all of his best generals because he believed they were a threat. Plus they seem to be planing to undermine Hood,and they probably feel that in the event of a coup the Chief would side with Lord Hood,given their collaboration in Halo 2. It's gust WM Ging so who knows.

Edit: Another comparison to Stalin,he purged all his best commanders right before they were needed most,during the German invasion, mayhaps ONI will try to eliminate the Chief right before whatever threat only he can solve shows up.

edited 27th Sep '14 7:13:50 PM by JackOLantern1337

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#279: Sep 27th 2014 at 7:28:26 PM

What if one of the Halo side games is you playing as the Rookie enacting a "purge" of ONI on behalf of the UNSC's leaders.

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#280: Sep 27th 2014 at 8:51:48 PM

I wouldn't be all that torn up about it. ONI are some sketchy-ass folks.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#281: Sep 27th 2014 at 8:53:05 PM

Yeah, eventually Hood and all of the other admirals will get real tired of ONI creating new messes.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#282: Sep 28th 2014 at 12:20:16 AM

There is a reason we have Make It Look Like an Accident. Chief was not raised to think of ONI as his commanding officers, he was raised to be a soldier to fight for Earth and humanity. That worked great when ONI had the Covenant War to mask their sketchier activities and Chief died a war hero, but now that Chief is back and not as understanding/patient of incompetent leaders (like Del Rio), they might consider him a liability that is living proof of ONI's culpability.

Cganale Since: Dec, 2010
#283: Sep 28th 2014 at 1:18:21 AM

That would be the greatest Halo game ever devised.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#284: Sep 28th 2014 at 7:13:52 AM

Master Chief: The Black Spartan, where Chief and the Rookie team up to take down ONI, who contracts its own Spartan that they've raised to take them both down.

edited 28th Sep '14 7:23:15 AM by theLibrarian

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#285: Sep 28th 2014 at 7:18:15 AM

I get the feeling they would have trouble communicating since neither likes to say much.

OrKuunArQenByundis A Grey Sun Veiled By Dark Clouds on a Cold Wind from Under the Sun Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#286: Sep 28th 2014 at 8:18:10 AM

"Why would ONI consider humanity's greatest hero a threat?"

Probably comes from a similar line of reasoning as "Let's destabilize and poison humanity's best chance at positive extraterrestrial relations".

As a side, while I don't have a problem with how the Knights look, I think these would have been cooler.

edited 28th Sep '14 8:20:55 AM by OrKuunArQenByundis

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#287: Sep 28th 2014 at 1:15:22 PM

[up] Now that I think about it,ONI turning into villains would actually make the Karen Travis books make sense. It shows,from their own point of view, ONI's descent into petty grudges,rank hypocrisy,and paranoia. And my personal head cannon is that those documents that said Halsey lied to Naomi were fakes made by ONI,and similar fakes were inserted into the Spartan's files in the event they got their hands on them.

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maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#288: Sep 28th 2014 at 1:40:12 PM

Karen Travist

On second thought, let's not do that.

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doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#289: Sep 28th 2014 at 1:47:53 PM

[up][up] They must be fake with her approach to the Spartans in T Fo R.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#290: Sep 28th 2014 at 2:14:28 PM

Said it before, and I'll say it again: they just need to up the amount of ways they tell the story in the game. Bioshock-style audio logs, and perhaps video and text logs, in addition to the Terminals. Keep them more out in the open so you can find them without really looking; that way people less versed in the lore can pick the stuff up on the go without needing to consult a guide or something. Actual Terminals can be hidden for the fun of it, but set accessible video monitors and audio terminals out in the open to be watched at leisure, and keep a chronological log of them that you can access and watch when you pause the game.

This, I'll have to disagree with entirely. Hated how the Master Chief just randomly decided to read some Forerunner logs in Halo 3.

Halo doesn't need audio diaries, and if it's going to have them, the Chief has to be a different protagonist - he rarely talks, he shoots first, and he's usually being hounded and outnumbered. Halo ODST made audio diaries work because The Rookie was searching for his old team and retracing their steps. But Chief? He's usually pursuing an ancient alien artifact, or rushing to clear a landing zone, or leading a charge into enemy territory.

Having to break from the action in the obligatory UNSC/armory level to read some statistics about the MJOLNIR armor, or some "retrieved Forerunner encrpted files" or whatever would break the immersion. Chief wouldn't stop in the middle of some alien holy site, military installation, or battleship to read about their culture or religious beliefs. That's just silly.

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#291: Sep 28th 2014 at 2:40:03 PM

[up][up][up][up]That's what I've been saying this whole time and it's just now starting to catch traction.

EndlessSea LEGENDARY GALE from oh no you don't Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#292: Sep 28th 2014 at 2:44:48 PM

[up][up] Better than a metric ton of spoon-fed exposition per cutscene or just shoving everything into EU materials.

but HOW?
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#293: Sep 28th 2014 at 2:50:49 PM

I miss the days when you could read the exposition in the manual. Hell, Halo 2 detailed who the Arbiter was in the manual.

Seriously, I would hate it if I had to collect 50 audio diaries explain what's going on in the game's backstory, Going Through the Motions. Plus, you know it'd be a damn Achievement.

That said, to the best of my memory, Halos 1, 2, and 3 didn't shovel exposition at us.

edited 28th Sep '14 2:52:00 PM by FOFD

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EndlessSea LEGENDARY GALE from oh no you don't Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#294: Sep 28th 2014 at 2:55:44 PM

You say that like people actually read manuals. If you've got a video game campaign, you should have, y'know, stuff to do during that campaign, beyond bare-bones "go to that place, kill that guy" stuff you could just as easily get from multiplayer and stuff.

but HOW?
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#295: Sep 28th 2014 at 4:32:43 PM

That said, to the best of my memory, Halos 1, 2, and 3 didn't shovel exposition at us.

Gonna stick my neck out and say that was to the detriment of Halo's story. What we got in the games worked, to be sure, but for the most part it wasn't anything special. I appreciate how it was rare that I didn't know why I was doing what I was doing or why not doing it would be bad - but when you had things like the terminals in 3 or the budding EU telling you of this rich universe then it kinda hurt the story when I'm thinking every 5 minutes "There are other Spartans right? Where are the other Spartans?"

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#296: Sep 28th 2014 at 4:34:32 PM

The EU says that they're off doing other things (like between Halo 2 and Halo 3 the surviving I Is went to Onyx after fighting elsewhere on Earth). Jun's training the I Vs but Idk when Thursday War and Glasslands take place.

OrKuunArQenByundis A Grey Sun Veiled By Dark Clouds on a Cold Wind from Under the Sun Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#297: Sep 28th 2014 at 7:37:10 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up][up] Didn't say you'd have to break from the action. Anyway, I don't see why Chief wouldn't pass up gathering intel, especially if it pertained to the mission at hand. All one would need to do is look at whatever there is to find, click X, and see "Data recorded for further review", with the option to view it right then and there, or pack it away to leaf through later.

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#298: Sep 28th 2014 at 8:22:03 PM

[up]Heck, in the first book alone, the Chief records Engineers doing stuff and retrieves a Forerunner artifact, despite neither being on the original mission plan ("nuke the city").

edited 28th Sep '14 8:22:42 PM by umbrellasareawesome

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MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#299: Sep 28th 2014 at 10:58:04 PM

Chief wouldn't stop in the middle of some alien holy site, military installation, or battleship to read about their culture or religious beliefs.

Yet canonically he does. Both in the EU and elsewhere he routinely goes beyond what is required of the mission, often for curiosity. The terminals on the Ark, the stuff on Requiem (and not just those terminals) and more.

OrKuunArQenByundis A Grey Sun Veiled By Dark Clouds on a Cold Wind from Under the Sun Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#300: Oct 17th 2014 at 10:32:02 PM

Looks like they're coming out with a new top-down shooter, Spartan Strike, as a sort of sequel to Assault. Will feature the Warthog, a new UNSC vehicle called the Kestrel (think a UNSC Ghost), and includes Prometheans and their weapons alongside Covies.

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