East Asia News & Politics Thread: China, South Korea, Japan...

True. I remember reading someone's experience saying that if the Emperor was not judged, the people would have revolted.

Of course, it was just one man at the time. He became an ambassador. Don't recall his name.

Really? Never knew that. I mean, I knew that there were no publicized visits by the Imperial Family, but that they actively shun it is news to me.

And this is one reason why I advocate restoring some measure of power to the Emperor, so that he is no less influential or personally indenpendent than any of the constitutional democratic monarchs of this age (e.g. Queen Elizabeth of the United Kingdom).

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

The revolt would probably have never happened as the link Grand Prince Paul posted says, or more specifically, the book Embracing Defeat.

Honestly, soon everyone who remembers the crimes will be dead, we'll have a big war and some new war crimes to deal with.

Some stuff about that here.

edited 23rd Jun '15 7:57:02 AM by TerminusEst

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@Grand Prince Paul II: I guess it didn't matter that postwar Japanese didn't protect his throne since apparently the United States did. Given that he seemed to have an active role during the war, that's a rather generous outcome for him. Although they did put the general on trial.

x4 Really? They censored the Emperor of Japan just because he spoke? Advising and and consulting should be well within the capacity of the monarch, as well as freedom of speech as a citizen. That's how it works in Europe.

I don't know, maybe the postwar authorities thought that letting the Emperor stay but stripping all his powers was a smart decision, but it seems to have caused problems on both ends.

That's how it works in Britain. The Queen doesn't voice any public political views.

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In practice the emperor has none of the rights afforded to normal citizens. More here. You might also want to look at the Imperial Household Law.

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The emperor and his family live in a modern version of the Gilded Cage.

Lazy and pathetic.

That's just outrageous. If Japan was in EU or something, the European Court of Human Rights wouldn't find it acceptable. But alas.

In an earlier post when I said I would like to see the developed democracies in the Asian region work together, I partially meant that something even vaguely like the EU here would be a good development.

As far as I know, there's no regional mechanism to protect human rights in the Asian region at all, so inevitably you get complete disregard for people's rights on various occasions.

edited 24th Jun '15 7:03:43 AM by editerguy

Cross posted with global terrorism Fresh violence in Xinjiang The reason for the attack could be restrictions placed on Muslims celebrating Ramadan by the CCP, Muslim party members, civil servants, students and teachers are stopped from observing the period when Muslims fast - one of the five pillars of Islam.

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Makes sense for the CCP. Make the pillars crumble and the traditional Uighur culture with it, and then sweep in and solidify control over the province.

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I'm more worried about the lack of details, myself.

Charlie Stross's cheerful, optimistic predictions for 2017, part one of three.

You think the story could have been made up to make China look bad?

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What does the world think of China v US?

Interestingly, apparently the EU is most convinced China will eclipse the US while the Asia-Pacific is less convinced.

China's not the sort to make up terrorist attacks out of whole cloth, but what it does do is to suppress details of all kinds in a frenzy of paranoia, so that what it does release—and what the Uighur groups release—is hard to evaluate.

Charlie Stross's cheerful, optimistic predictions for 2017, part one of three.

Even if China's economy manages to pass United States' at some point, I don't see that status as sustainable for long. And that's just the economy. United States still has friendly relations with many countries, despite the bad reputation it gained for some of its actions. But China has a few hard allies; even in its immediate surroundings, it's surrounded by other countries with some friction towards it.

Are you expecting China to crash?

Lazy and pathetic.

I don't think they'll "crash" per say, but their 7~8% growth is unsustainable. They are slowing down, and slow downs mean market bursts. China's going to be big but there is an element of Paper Tiger-ism involved in here.

The U.S. has soft power on its side (culture et al), which probably helps.

edited 25th Jun '15 2:54:44 AM by PotatoesRock

China is already big. The problem seems to be the transition from the high growth to a more sustainable one.

Lazy and pathetic.

Yes. Their accelerated growth going to sustainable growth generally involves a lot of bubbles popping with this sort of thing, whether housing prices crash, financial markets tumble, businesses close, etc etc etc.

IIRC, the government's doing what it can to curb the worst side effects of the economy's deflation, but "China the Invincible God Kings of Tomorrow" is. Well. Likely very silly.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/700771/ph-japan-naval-drills-constitutional-says-afp

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/125211/ph-japan-naval-drills-not-unconstitutional-says-afp

The leftists are raising an eyebrow and are accusing the government of blindly turning away from Japan's militarist past.

The way the article makes it sound, the leftists over there are incredibly petty. It was cleared, so there's nothing to argue about.

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That too. I mean that China has many trading partners but only has a handful of truly allied countries.

Less "true allies" means less commitments and liabilities.

Lazy and pathetic.

But fewer countries to help you out when you get in trouble.

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