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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#2451: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:15:21 AM

Yeah, I honestly didn't mind the "fart car" gag.

Like I never got the feeling that it overstayed its welcome or anything...

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#2452: Nov 3rd 2016 at 8:35:33 AM

15 seconds does sound a bit too long...foy.

Something to skip on rewatches, not necessarily the 1st time.

edited 3rd Nov '16 8:35:56 AM by randomness4

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diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#2453: Nov 3rd 2016 at 5:42:41 PM

I didn't think it was that bad either, I've heard much worse potty humor jokes in kids show.

edited 3rd Nov '16 5:43:04 PM by diyedas

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#2454: Nov 3rd 2016 at 6:18:37 PM

I ain't a fan of gross-out humor like most of the internet and tend to pass over scenes that do it - but what Infinity Train did, I've seen worse. So I don't care.

In short, Infinity Train needs to be a mini-series at most, IMHO - it lends itself so damn well to that, compared to a full series, which I know can & will burn out easily with this setup. With a little tweaking (should it get picked up), I could see this being the next Over The Garden Wall, if not better.

As for Victor&Valentino - while I like the art-style and lore of it (because I'm a bit of a sucker for references to Mexico's Day of The Dead, which this seems to be paying homage to.), I'm not sold on much else. Infinity Train all the way!

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diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#2455: Nov 3rd 2016 at 6:42:54 PM

I agree about Infinity Train, it could make an awesome mini series, I dunno how it could be a full series and stay interesting.

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#2456: Nov 3rd 2016 at 7:12:14 PM

Fart car gag was fine, and well applied throughout the episode. This is a good pilot, reminiscent of Over The Garden Wall in that it seems to be a supernatural story with a bit of a Myth Arc but enough randomness built into the 'verse that it can also be episodic. Could be a fine miniseries or full series (although the inevitable Cartoon Network hiatuses would be unbearable).

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#2457: Nov 4th 2016 at 4:26:10 PM

I agree that Infinity Train would work best as a miniseries. It has too tight of a myth arc, and I really don't see the "go to a new magical place every episode" idea would hold together too long in this day and age without a tight myth arc backing it. Especially considering how there are only 3 recurring characters, and 2 of them are more there as comic relief than anything else. (That being said Over The Garden Wall would have been just fine as a regular run series. The myth arc would get pushed more into the background, but imo there was so much more to love in OTGW than just the DEEPEST LORE stuff, which only really comes into play for a little bit, then fades off when it is no longer needed).

I don't absolutely hate V&V, but it needs a lot of work, on the characters mostly to make them work a lot better. The premise is very Gravity Falls-y, but without a lot of that clever writing that made Gravity Falls click.

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#2458: Nov 5th 2016 at 8:04:04 AM

You can always add more characters to make the dynamic work, if the issue is want of characters.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#2459: Nov 5th 2016 at 9:41:50 AM

Oh hey, a pilot from 6 months ago!

Apple & Onion by George Gendi

EDIT: Oh hey! Another pilot from even earlier!

My Science Fiction Project by Audie Harrison

edited 5th Nov '16 9:54:24 AM by TargetmasterJoe

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#2460: Nov 5th 2016 at 5:13:50 PM

I'm feeling the unholy urge to unleash Armageddon on an unsuspecting mankind by writing Apple and Onion/Pickle and Peanut foursome slash fanfiction.

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#2461: Nov 6th 2016 at 3:39:52 PM

Here's another one from last year.

There are some things I don't like about it (hello, ugly art style and morally dubious protagonists) but there's a solid concept here...

Even if that concept is essentially just Chalk Zone.

edited 6th Nov '16 3:40:54 PM by Grounder

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#2462: Nov 12th 2016 at 11:57:20 AM

hey, guys, I have a bit of question, what do you want in a cartoon, both in it's characters and story/plot?

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IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
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#2463: Nov 17th 2016 at 12:02:13 PM

For as long as I can remember, Pokemon was always a part of Cartoon Network.

I can't say I'm surprised though. Pokemon hasn't really been treated well by Cartoon Network for quite a while now even in spite of how praised the XY season was overall.

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#2464: Nov 17th 2016 at 12:18:21 PM

I can remember when Cartoon Network didn't have Pokemon and it was solely a Kids WB thing.

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#2465: Nov 17th 2016 at 2:07:02 PM

Yeah, I remember finding it really weird when Cartoon Network started airing Pokémon.

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#2466: Nov 17th 2016 at 2:28:16 PM

.... so it's done? Cartoon Network will stop airing Pokemon for good?

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#2467: Nov 17th 2016 at 2:42:33 PM

[up][up] This was in 2002, if I remember right; perhaps someone behind the scenes knew Saturday morning had already entered its death throes and needed to put it somewhere where it would still get viewers.

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Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#2468: Nov 17th 2016 at 4:31:48 PM

Pokemon was one of the last cartoons shown on a weekday basis on my local WB affiliate. They'd show Sailor Moon early in the morning, and then Pokemon in the afternoon.

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#2469: Nov 17th 2016 at 11:33:52 PM

This was in 2002, if I remember right; perhaps someone behind the scenes knew Saturday morning had already entered its death throes and needed to put it somewhere where it would still get viewers.
No, it was way later than that, it was definitely sometime after Cartoon Network abandoned the city bumpers. 2002 they still had remnants of the pre-city bumpers and I'm pretty sure still had Cartoon Cartoon Fridays going (which I think ended 2003 or 2004).

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#2470: Nov 18th 2016 at 3:36:39 AM

I definitely remember Pokemon being on the weekday lineup of Toonami, so it had to have been before '04 that they started airing the show.

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#2471: Nov 18th 2016 at 9:31:11 AM

Wikipedia has it as airing on Cartoon Network starting in 2006. [1] It was on CN in other countries before then, but not in the U.S.

(And I would trust that this particular bit of information is accurate, since articles like these on Wikipedia usually are for minute details like that.)

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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#2472: Nov 18th 2016 at 9:45:38 AM

I think that only accounts for when they started airing new episodes.

They were definitely airing reruns of older episodes of that show in 2002.

This forum thread from 2002 mentions it airing on Cartoon Network on weekdays at 9.

edited 18th Nov '16 9:46:56 AM by Aldo930

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#2473: Nov 18th 2016 at 10:12:39 AM

No, that's when they started airing reruns too.

And Kids' WB had a Toonami block in 2002. I see zero evidence anywhere else that it was aired on Cartoon Network prior to 2002, and every source I can find says it was only ever aired on CN from 2006 onward. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]

This is literally the only source I can find that implies CN ever aired Pokemon in 2002, but it only says it was "announced" and not that it ever happened, and literally every source I can find contradicts this.

Okay, this is a more credible source that says Pokemon was aired on CN around then, but I don't know if it's accurate or if they have sources on it (there certainly are none cited), and since I can't find anyone talking about it (and knowing Pokemon fans and having been a huge one at the time, I know people would be talking about it), I'm categorizing this as an aberration.

site note: It's fascinating going through these old forum threads comprised largely of 12 year olds (judging by how they write). Brings back cringey memories of my own past on forums as a teenager...

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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#2474: Nov 18th 2016 at 10:26:29 AM

This ought to be the last word on the subject.

I checked the Internet Archive - this is a schedule from early 2003. Look at 8:30 p.m. and 9 p.m. - what do you see?

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Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#2475: Nov 18th 2016 at 10:38:53 AM

Well, fair, but did it actually air then? Things can be on the schedule and not actually be aired.

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