Puella Magi Troper Magica

No problem, Emi knows a couple of methods stated in the series to farm Witches. Too bad both are risky and and amoral...

Also she is more calm and rational about her magic expenditure...

edited 7th May '14 12:43:00 PM by AtomicNut

The textile industry is very competitive.

Is it so immoral to let Familiars feed on humans until they become witches?

That's the first Emi method. Although Emi is selective, she chucks the familiar in places who are known dens of wretched people, like a prison full of rapists.

I'd imagine the second is to force other magical girls to succumb to witchification.

I hope Seika doesn't turn into a Magical Girl too quickly. The more she learns about the system the more she can effectively use her wish. Since she would probably be using Magical Girl as another escape like her Video Games and Books, her wish would be based on that fact and aim on choice strengths she can wish for directly.

edited 7th May '14 1:11:44 PM by StephanReiken

Worse. She overclocks a witch seed, then tosses it to a magical girl to weaken her. If the witch is standing Emi finishes the witch and reaps the seed, if the girl is standing, emi presses the girl into losing the remaining magic and reaps two seeds.

Suffice to say this is only used against people emi would loathe. Deep down Emi is not that evil or greedy, just an aloof grumpy mother hen

and that's not entering into the theory of her trying to make a second witch of an opposite nature appear inside a barrier of a witch via overdrained seed to see if they'd cancel eachother out.

edited 7th May '14 1:12:57 PM by AtomicNut

You know, PMMM bugs me. It's the epitome of selfishness.

"Oh, just let others die so I don't have to, even though my death would bring about an overall positive effect to the universe."

I'd think that a overclocked seed wouldn't yield a witch with its own grief seed, since that leads to infinite witch farming. I'd personally suspect that the witch would need to eat someone first before it gains a grief seed that you could harvest.

Although I'm glad I'm not the only one to think of the overclocked grief-seed grenade (to be fair, Oriko did it first).

Well, emi's been in the show for a while. She has her bag of tricks.

I would also like to try two tricks. Since a Mahou shoujo's body is also infused with magic, it can count as magical weapon if you use martial arts, right? And two, If a magical girl is aware the body is an undead puppet and the true soul is in the ring, could they force their bodies to pull limb movements worthy of the possesed girl of the Exorcist to spook off impresionable meguka opponents... or force said bodies to act like an adrenalin berserker trance...

edited 7th May '14 1:17:49 PM by AtomicNut

The latter is essentially what Sayaka does, isn't it?

She turned off pain so that she could fight without distraction. But as Kyuubey said, no pain means a slower reaction.

And I would think its not really good to be absorbing a lot of attacks from a Witch since it costs you in Magical Power although Sayaka would be more efficient in healing compared to others as for her its a feature of her power.

Emi does have the same power as Sayaka, though. seriously, the demonic puppet and the berserk gambles aren't for battle prowess, they're best used in psychological warfare against magical girls...

edited 7th May '14 1:24:45 PM by AtomicNut

I don't think Seika would like Emi. She doesn't like Player Killers. .

Turning off pain is something all MSes could do if they take the trouble to learn how. Homura repairs her eyes, for instance. Since the body is just hardware now, it can be modified at will.

There are also all kinds of secondary powers up for exploitation. Flight, or at least building-bounding, seems almost standard; Homura was able to sustain powered flight in several other timelines—notably in the dream one—even though it has nothing to do with her power suite.

Emi is not a PK unless you betray her or her covenant (fellow megukas who share her battles). She's like a Mama Bear.

And learning martial arts would increase efficiency in handling said hardware, which could translate in less numerous and more damaging attacks, which translates in less magic consumption to do the same damage. It's not for just trying to look cool by beating familiars with bare hands :P

edited 7th May '14 1:30:05 PM by AtomicNut

I've been giving some thought to what Seika's wish would be given her current situation and potential future situations.

At the moment, she would likely make a careless wish. I'll have to get a little creative but she would essentially wish for the power of a maximum level character of a character class in an MMORPG. She would probably go for the power of a Paladin to fight the Witches.

If given time to consider the system and the details about Magical Girls, she might well change this aspect to another class, one which avoids the issues with losing Magical Power by including auto-regenerative mana. So, an Archmage who simply regenerates mana naturally. A Druid, who absorbs ambient natural energies to regenerate mana. A Priest, who prays to god to get her mana back.

Of those, I'd imagine Druid is the cheapest from Kyuubey's perspective.

However, if some of the other characters can get her thinking about making serious wishes beyond simply asking for specific powers as a Magical Girl the one she might consider is wishing for her parents to get back together again.

edited 7th May '14 1:41:53 PM by StephanReiken

For an intelligent character, she sounds like a massive idiot.

Who?

Also Fight Club Supreme Evil Overlord Wolfpack Emi's rules have been laid out.

edited 7th May '14 1:58:28 PM by AtomicNut

You mean because I haven't considered 'not' taking the deal in the first place? That option would only truly present itself if Seika gets through this conflict without sealing the contract and someone is there to force the issue down her throat.

Because the situation is so ridiculous that it would be hard to believe to begin with.

I just didn't think there were anyone else to drive down that path. :P

And when I think about it, nobody can really say that death after being a Magical Girl would be different than death as a human. If there isn't a literal cost beyond the physical changes.. what do you lose? Say No and you don't get to try to fight to survive

edited 7th May '14 3:26:21 PM by stephanreiken

Say no and your statistical life expectancy jumps up by sixty years or so, considering that this is Japan. Assuming you make your way over the "hump" and survive to be a Type-III, your life expectancy is two or three years at most. If you don't make it out of the Type-II stage, it's measured in weeks.

In fact, death as a magical girl is more *beneficial* to everything than dying as a normal human.

Really, I can understand why Kyubey would be so confused by everyone's feelings.

About the mana regenerative classes thing, Druid wouldn't work because, outside of a barrier, there is no ambient magical energy, Priest wouldn't work because there are no gods to pray to until Madoka and this happens a couple years before Homura even gets the loop started back on the Alpha timeline to borrow an SBURB term, Archmage would be the best, but wouldn't mitigate corruption due to despair, only corruption due to magic use.

edited 7th May '14 4:16:59 PM by Gladonost

In terms of long-term survivability, I'm thoroughly convinced that Homura came upon the best solution: the best way to take down witches is to minimize expenditure of magic, and to use it as a support/force multiplier. Single pipe bombs were enough to knock out most witches they were deployed against, and those could not have been more than a kilogram or two of acetone peroxide plus casing.

(I'm pretty sure Homura used acetone peroxide/TATP in her bombs, given that hydrogen peroxide was apparently involved in making them. I'm also pretty sure that only luck and time-stop magic prevented it from taking off her hands, because that is some horrible stuff to homebrew, with the least impurity rendering it hideously sensitive and liable to go off when you look at it funny.)

[in other news, Sabre guarantees himself a spot on some federal watchlist or another.]

edited 7th May '14 4:33:10 PM by SabresEdge

I would think she'd go to arch mage first, but would ask Kyuubey about the alternatives anyway.

Let me put Seika this way. Don't mistake having intelligence with acting intelligently. Acting intelligently require s knowledge and maturity. Qualities Seika lacks. She just has stronger hardware, more brainpower to easily comprehend mathematics etc.

Dear lord, time for Emi to go mental already? You know you pushed a couple of wrong buttons in quick succession...