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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#1: Apr 17th 2014 at 8:13:54 AM

We've come up with a standard set of messages that can be sent in the same way as the old 'natterfy' message. Hopefully this will let us clue in new tropers with how we do things without old hands becoming exasperated at saying the same things over and over.

It on the article history. Send a message about "a badness."

edited 17th Apr '14 8:14:14 AM by FastEddie

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LongLiveHumour Since: Feb, 2010
#2: Apr 17th 2014 at 8:26:20 AM

Brilliant! Love the fact that there's also a "thanks" option.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3: Apr 17th 2014 at 8:41:17 AM

Tried out a few on myself. They seem to be working fine.

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#4: Apr 17th 2014 at 8:52:02 AM

Same. Thank for keeping the wiki Cool!

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
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#5: Apr 17th 2014 at 8:58:17 AM

I just spent some time updating the messages, adding Trivia, Spoilers, and Grammar versions.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#6: Apr 17th 2014 at 10:24:34 AM

Can this item be used for messaging about common new page issues (like lack of indexing, lack of crosswicking, wrong namespace, stub articles and de novo Main/-to-work redirects; I message several people over such issues daily since August 2013)?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#7: Apr 17th 2014 at 10:35:38 AM

Mods can add/alter messages. Mods, how do we want to handle requests for new canned messages? Via Holler?

edited 17th Apr '14 10:36:12 AM by FastEddie

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#8: Apr 17th 2014 at 10:35:45 AM

Outstanding. "Mis-play" threw me off for a moment.

EDIT:

Do we want a "rude edit reason" option? Mislaunch of YKTTW?

Edit War warning. "Knock it off, take to discussion".

edited 17th Apr '14 10:40:00 AM by Rotpar

"But don't give up hope. Everyone is cured sooner or later. In the end we shall shoot you." - O'Brien, 1984
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#9: Apr 17th 2014 at 10:37:13 AM

@7: The "Edit requests for locked pages" thread? It's frequently used for "general edit and such-stuff" requests for the staff. It has the advantage that it allows for public commentary from interested parties.

edited 17th Apr '14 10:40:28 AM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#10: Apr 17th 2014 at 10:41:01 AM

Thanks, Eddie!

Using that thread for requests is logical. ATT could also work.

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#11: Apr 17th 2014 at 10:49:26 AM

+1 to request changes in the locked pages thread.

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#12: Apr 17th 2014 at 10:50:31 AM

"Edit War warning. "Knock it off, take to discussion". "

I disrecommend that kind of language. Polite requests have worked wonders for me.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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#13: Apr 17th 2014 at 11:00:47 AM

Explaining a 'bad edit' could go into the place of 'badness'

edited 17th Apr '14 11:02:06 AM by Ultimatum

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#14: Apr 17th 2014 at 11:07:14 AM

Edit requests... seems out of place. Maybe just a dedicated Tech Wishlist thread.

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#15: Apr 17th 2014 at 11:08:42 AM

I'll oppose that idea since it's just overcomplicating the process. Also, I disagree with it being "out of place".

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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#16: Apr 17th 2014 at 11:16:35 AM

@12

Well, that's the gist. [lol]

Obviously, not trying to be rude, just firm. Edit warring is more "active" than bad grammar, we'd like for them to stop now rather than after another half-dozen "get the last word in" edits.

Part of the problem is, if you're warning people to stop edit warring then it's probably already too late.

edited 17th Apr '14 11:17:38 AM by Rotpar

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#17: Apr 17th 2014 at 11:22:15 AM

I'm sure there's a way to make an "edit war" message more gentle. I'll take a crack at it.

Edit: Done.

edited 17th Apr '14 11:26:48 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
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#18: Apr 17th 2014 at 11:42:13 AM

Looks good.

How about a Bluenose Bowdlerizer warning? "Please don't censor the pages / check to see if parental controls are active".

edited 17th Apr '14 11:43:43 AM by Rotpar

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#20: Apr 17th 2014 at 12:00:22 PM

Yeah, we want to draft as politely as possible. I think we sometimes snap at people because of our frustration dealing with the same issues so often, so if we can store up some polite-ese, I'm sure it will be a friendlier place to hang out and be more effective.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#21: Apr 17th 2014 at 12:50:27 PM

OK, with regard of @6, I'll ask for the following items to be added, since they come up fairly frequently during my daily new page screenings:

The [page] article you made created a stub page in the wrong namespace, which has been cutlisted. Please consult Namespace about the proper place to create a page in and How to Create a Work's Page about how to write a non-stub page.

Thanks for helping us keep the wiki cool

The [page] article you made is a stub article; either it has too few examples of tropes or works or those present are misused or Zero Context Examples. The article will be processed here; feel free to improve on the page, but be warned that if the page isn't fixed it might be cut.

Thanks for helping us keep the wiki cool.

The [page] edit you made isn't reciprocated on the work or trope page you are referencing. We aim at reciprocating all examples between trope and work pages; see Crosswicking for an explanation on how to do that. Make sure that your examples are of good quality, by the way,

Thanks for helping us keep the wiki cool.

The [page] article isn't currently on an index. Wiki articles should always be indexed; if you need help at indexing, feel free to consult How Indexing Works for help.

Thanks for helping us keep the wiki cool.

edited 17th Apr '14 12:53:47 PM by SeptimusHeap

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#22: Apr 17th 2014 at 2:13:55 PM

I think I got all of those. The input form was inadvertently overwriting existing entries when I tried to add new ones.

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Rotpar Always 3:00am in the Filth from California (Unlucky Thirteen) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#23: Apr 18th 2014 at 7:16:34 PM

Two things:

edited 18th Apr '14 7:17:26 PM by Rotpar

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#24: Apr 18th 2014 at 7:59:31 PM

Do you think we could get messages for example indentation, zero context examples, and failure to use namespaces? I think more than half of the PMs I've sent out have been about example indentation, and the other two problems are not exactly uncommon either.

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#25: Apr 18th 2014 at 8:22:27 PM

All of the requests above are already present. Check the details of the messages.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

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