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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#2251: Nov 2nd 2015 at 6:03:08 AM

I know right. I'm annoyed at Shinji, because he knows why Yuya is there, since he heard the talk of the dimensional war when they were all taken in.

Then again, he did get arrested because of Yuya, so looking that far back, and with Jean suddenly appearing to congratulate Yuya himself, it does seem questionable.

Sam on the other hand, isn't thinking at all. Why would Yuya lie to him? He's talked with the dude, and should understand him a little, so why would Yuya, who was legitimately worried for Yuzu, work for the dude who injured him?

The kid just doesn't seem to understand people at all. the thing with Jack was somewhat forgivable, but doubting Yuya so quickly is annoying.

Edit: Just watched the sub. Sora is having doubts it seems, even if he wanted to trade Yuzu for Serena, it was to protect the former.

And right now, only he, Yuuya and Roger know that Obelisk Force is on the way. That's a problem. He's gotta find a way to get the word out quickly, but control freak idiot Roger is gonna make things harder, like he's been doing the whole Arc.

He's pretty much the reason the Lancer's have been failing to accomplish any of their goals.

And now Crow and Shinji, both suspicious of the other, are getting ready to duel. That one is gonna be.....

~Puts on shades~

....For the birds!evil grin

edited 3rd Nov '15 12:15:04 PM by HandsomeRob

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#2252: Nov 3rd 2015 at 2:38:28 PM

I honestly think this is one of the best set up episodes that we've seen from Arc-v. It allows for some character backstory reveals for Sora, establishes Crow and Shun's motivations to win the upcoming duel, and turns the commons and Shinji against Yuya. It shows Roger actually actively manipulating people, moreso than before, and he is actually surprisingly convincing.

Speaking of the whole "Commons turn against Yuya" thing, at least Yuya hasn't broken down again...yet. He spent a minute or two thinking about how he's set the two sides against one another even more, but then he gets his priorities straight and goes in search of Yuzu. I believe he's on a 4-episode streak without a serious breakdown?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#2253: Nov 3rd 2015 at 4:02:55 PM

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This is true. It might be Yuuto's influence honestly. That being said, now that he's trying to hold himself together, the plot seems to be trying even harder to break him, especially now that the Commons have turned on him worse then before. In fact, I can't help but wonder if Sam might try and sabotage him now out of misguided revenge.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#2254: Nov 3rd 2015 at 4:48:13 PM

All I know is that as the show goes on the more I root for Academia. First against Reiji. Then against Synchro.

Kurosaki hasn't helped with Xyz either, which I fully expect will reveal wasn't the happy egao paradise before Academia attacked considering they're confirmed to go there in the future.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#2255: Nov 3rd 2015 at 5:36:26 PM

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They are?

It would be interesting if it turned out XYZ did some questionable shit themselves before Academia wiped them out.

Definitely puts some Grey-and-Grey Morality into the situation.

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Diamite Rainy Echoes Since: Jul, 2013
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#2256: Nov 4th 2015 at 11:20:48 PM

Duel 80. AND ACTION!

  • Critical thinking goes out the window the moment something unfavorable happens. The Commons' MO.
  • Still, Jean's one sly dog. Or is he only smart because certain peoplenote  were dumb enough to buy what he was selling? Again, no critical thinking.
  • Yuuya's Smile Project gets harder every day. Really can't see him pulling it off now. At least the despair isn't getting to him for now.
  • Sorry, Sora. But to capture Serena also means you have to hand over Yuzu. And Yuuya ain't gonna sell Serena out. Just stick to keeping Yuzu safe, kay?
  • Buy Assault Blackwings vs. Buy Raid Raptors!tongue Who shall rule the merchandising skies!? ...I wonder if the Assault Blackwings are just as popular as the originals, though...

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#2257: Nov 4th 2015 at 11:22:38 PM

I sincerely believe the Commons really are that dumb and also really self-centered and will twist anything they view as a slight as a personal insult and vendetta against them.

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NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#2258: Nov 4th 2015 at 11:56:21 PM

Well, if Jean is genuine, Project Smile may get a massive donor with a number of strong friends.

Yeah I know he probably isn't, but it should create interesting drama between Yuya and the others.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#2259: Nov 5th 2015 at 6:21:08 AM

I really hope Yuuya doesn't buy what Jean is selling.

Also, a new theory:

wild mass guessThe revolution that Shinji wants has already happenedwild mass guess

The Commons used to be in control, but something happened that allowed the minority Tops to take that from them. In other words Shinji's big revolution will just be the same thing, and not actually solve any problems.

Edit: The description for episode 82 is up:

Apparently, Shun actually wants to stop his duel with Crow. I'm curious as to what would bring this about, since he's never exactly been merciful before (and I'm not just talking about his duels against Sora, Dennis, or practically anyone he thought of as an enemy, but even those duelists in the the Miami championships got ruthlessly stomped) so I'm wondering what happens that makes him say ok, there's no need for this at all? I'm wondering if may Crow proves to be a kindred spirit (even though Shun is the Jack expy.....well one of them).

edited 5th Nov '15 12:20:00 PM by HandsomeRob

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#2260: Nov 5th 2015 at 3:41:58 PM

In the preview for episode 81, we know that Shun's motivation for the duel is to root out Academia Agents, with the preview implying that he believes Crow is from Academia. Is it possible that the reason he wants to end the duel is because he's realized for whatever reason that Crow isn't an agent?

Also, the Shun vs Crow duel is a 2-parter? Huh. Didn't know that.

edited 5th Nov '15 3:42:14 PM by raaabr

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#2261: Nov 5th 2015 at 6:12:06 PM

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To be fair during the Junior Youth Championship he was trying to prove to Reiji that Reiji could trust him, wasn't he? He's probably only ruthless when he has a goal that requires it.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#2262: Nov 5th 2015 at 6:14:16 PM

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Fair enough, but while the Knights of Duels were kinda douchebags, I don't think they needed to get their asses kicked as badly as Shun apparently did, at least the first time.

After that, they were fair game.

Edit: ep 81 up. Crow's kids don't like Shun, and I can't blame them really.

Also, Jean spends the whole ep trying to break Yuya down. I can only hope Yuya does the smart thing and tells him to go fuck himself.

edited 8th Nov '15 7:16:39 AM by HandsomeRob

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Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#2263: Nov 8th 2015 at 8:18:15 AM

Crow is trying to be the new Shinji but it is not really happening. He has nowhere nearly the same hype.

Shun manages to get even edgier than normal. He actually said "I have no friends" verbatim.

Roget, on other hand, was a positive surprise. He sounds way more sincere than what I expect him to. I still don't buy him believing the Egao phisolophy, but hid manage to give a really convincing reasoning for him to believe and even took the risk of telling Yuya he is from Academia. The guy knows what he is doing.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#2264: Nov 8th 2015 at 8:37:45 AM

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Truthfully even if he was sincere, I still want Yuya to tell him to fuck off. He's the reason they totally failed at all of their missions in the synchro dimension.

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#2265: Nov 8th 2015 at 9:51:43 AM

Not really. He arrested the group but they were criminals who escaped arrest/were covering for criminals. He also didn't make Gogenzaka and Tsukikage fail as those two threw their matches. Sawatari failed because of magic shit so he had nothing to do with that either. He's really only screwed over Yuya by having him be the sacrifice to Jack which, ya know, no matter what somebody would have been made to do anyways; and Yuzu by having her fight Sergei and even then he wanted Yuzu defeated by not blasted off the road and put in a position that should have killed her.

KnightofNASA Since: Jan, 2013
#2266: Nov 8th 2015 at 10:01:30 PM

It has suddenly occurred to me that perhaps Shun's dub name came from an important rebellion from American history.

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#2267: Nov 10th 2015 at 3:49:54 AM

Roger has a very vested interest in making sure synchro dimension stays safe, while the Council would probably roll over for Academia like dogsas long as they keep some authority.

...Yuya, you gotta make some difficult choices in war. See America's temp alliance with the USSR against Hitler's Germany.

Nickpws Since: Dec, 2014
#2268: Nov 10th 2015 at 10:58:52 AM

Kurosaki is getting really boring to watch. Neither him nor his strategies really change, and even the kids think he's overreacting.

I liked Kurosaki as a character, now I just kinda want him to shove off so we can see more of the rest.

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#2269: Nov 10th 2015 at 11:00:32 AM

I'm okay with Shun, but he never had much going on for him as a character.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#2270: Nov 10th 2015 at 11:52:33 AM

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That's interesting, cause it seem like something will change next week with him, what with wanting actually stop his duel with Crow and all.

So maybe we'll get something new out of him finally.

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#2271: Nov 10th 2015 at 12:00:36 PM

Well we know that because he was right about Dennis he now thinks that there is someone from Academia hiding in City and that he's trying to weed them out. Maybe he comes to the conclusion next week that Crow isn't from Academia and that's part of why he wants to end the duel.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#2272: Nov 10th 2015 at 12:17:49 PM

I like to think he sees Yuri and decides to end the duel so he can go beat the crap out of him.

Plus he already mentioned he suspected Dennis of being from Academia for awhile, so learning he was one didn't change much.

And to think it was only because people came to his aid that him and Serena were even able to win against those Obelisk Force mooks.

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#2273: Nov 10th 2015 at 2:39:27 PM

So just for confirmation, we've got the following dimensions with the following issues:

Synchro: Ultra competitive. Definitely subscribes to social Darwinist ideologies, and has a major split between the rich and the poor.

Fusion: From what we've seen, it's practically a dictatorship. Is actively aggressive against other dimensions, and trains its youth into supersoldiers from what we've seen with Sora's flashback. Also patrols the minds of its soldiers.

XYZ: Unknown, but we're almost certainly gonna learn something awful about them. Perhaps they come from a society that advocates anger as the natural reaction to anything, or all of its members happen to have a hidden darkness within their hearts?

Standard: The most "balanced" of the dimensions, though it still has lots of faults. For one, we have the entire situation with Reira (Brainwashing of a young child, an orphan even, into having no personality of his own to make him the perfect soldier). In fact, you could argue that Standard embodies many of the negative traits of the other dimensions in balance. We have Elitism with LDS. We also have brainwashing of children with Reira just like Academia. And if I'm correct about XYZ, then we have that in Isao (XYZ = Level 0 guy) and his school.

Which gives me an idea. As far as we can tell, the synchro dimensions city is just a city in the middle of nowhere water. wild mass guessWhat if all of the non-standard dimensions are splits off of the original "whole" dimension, each one tearing a location heavily tied to a single summoning method away? So XYZ tore away Heartland, Fusion tore away the Duel Academy, and Synchro tore away Neo Domino city, with whatever was left becoming the standard dimension?wild mass guess

Then again, that doesn't explain why we have alt versions of 5Ds characters. wild mass guess Perhaps the split sent the dimension back 50 or so years, and the resulting dimensions is what would have happened in those 50 years if they became closed off and isolated countries?wild mass guess

Oh, and we can't forget that even Standard wipes memories, considering Masumi/Hokuto/Yaiba and how they don't remember Kurosaki at all.

edited 10th Nov '15 3:59:50 PM by raaabr

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#2274: Nov 10th 2015 at 4:34:10 PM

Synchro is kinda SMT Chaos hypocritical when it comes to their "Meritocracy", which can be seen just from the fact that the rich are considered elite just because they are rich and your state of birth predetermines your place in life.

If anything it's more a case of Status Quo Is God where they preach a Meritocracy, but really keep the city in the same state unchanging.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#2275: Nov 10th 2015 at 4:39:13 PM

I'm wondering if the rules of the city (winners are awesome, losers get screwed over) is meant to explain why the Tops are....well, on top.

They had to have gained all the power somehow right? The entire thing might be a bad case of Hoist by Their Own Petard for the Commons, who might have been in the exact same position as said Tops at one point, but lost it, and are now rip shit bitter.

Though I'm not sure if saying it's their own faults is a good way to acknowledge the divide between rich and poor.

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