Incredibles 2

By 'human tries to be a super' I meant human tries to be a superhero. I was just lazy with the typing. Syndrome was super but he definitely wasn't a superhero.

Here are a few sites that talk about the rumours.

http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/the-incredibles-2-release-date-and-spoilers-helen-and-bob-quit-being-superheroes-and-is-syndrome-back-rumored-to-release-in-2016-28667

http://www.crossmap.com/news/the-incredibles-2-release-date-and-plot-spoilers-jack-jack-to-be-new-enemy-with-syndromes-return-the-incredibles-as-elastigirl-and-mr-incredible-quit-being-superheroes-17033

http://www.vcpost.com/articles/50322/20150318/incredibles-2-release-plot-updates-violet-dash-love-interests-introduced.htm

Again, I have absolutely no idea how accurate these are. I'm just hoping they're not.

edited 22nd Mar '15 6:09:54 PM by Clanger00

I've never even heard of those websites, let alone have any reason to believe they're doing anything more than starting up rumors of their own for the sake of clicks and attention.

I hope that these sequels aren't just a means of milking money.

Unless the franchise is Cars, Pixar won't greenlight sequels without a worthwhile story.

I was hoping that the World of Cars franchise would save us from a third invitation to catch up with the Radiator Springs gang themselves, but apparently not.

Fresh-eyed movie blog

It's been, what, eleven years since The Incredibles. It's pretty late to attempt an "even more munny" scheme, especially since tons of fans were demanding a sequel right after the first one premiered.

"Let's wait 11 years to make more money!"

I'm not too sure what the purpose of Finding Dory is though.

Visit my Tumblr! I may say things. The Bureau Project

To tell Dory's past.

My Tumblr "If theirs one thing I'm good at, it's blowing" Jesse Cox 2013

And since that's the only word the movie gives at all on the subject (except for in the opening, where Buddy also says so), it's still an assumption to claim he just didn't know, since the statement isn't framed in the movie as false. "It doesn't say he's not" (especially when it does) isn't the same as implying that he is.

The idea that he's way smarter than usual so he must be a super is interesting, and it does make sense, but it's still fanon. Nobody ever said fanon had to be unreasonable, after all (though I would argue that it still undermines his character).

The best explanation for Syndrome's intelligence is genre - The Incredibles is a fusion of Silver Age comics and James Bond-esque spy stories, both of which have incredibly rich, incredibly intelligent but otherwise "normal" foes with impossible doomsday devices as Stock Villains. He's able to do all that and still be considered normal because that's a staple of the genres he's calling back to.

Syndrome is basically Lex Luthor - the "mere human" without natural gifts to Mr. Incredible's Superman with extraordinary abilities.

edited 23rd Mar '15 3:31:57 AM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

Superhero stories have their fair share of characters who seem incredibly talented in an area or another, yet are still considered normal (name any Gadgeteer Genius or Charles Atlas Superpower). Syndrome is one of those.

To be fair, the world in the Incredibles was never given too much focus (which is ok, since the focus of the movie was family relationships anyway); for instance we don't know what "supers" exactly are, we have no idea if there are villains with superpowers, and conversely if there are heroes without superpowers.

As for the rumours about Incredibles 2, I hope they are just clickbait, because so far they seem kinda awful (Jack-Jack as a villain and Syndrome returning would basically undo the ending of the first movie). Though I'd indeed like to see the children grown up.

edited 23rd Mar '15 7:06:54 AM by C105

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.

That sounds like it'd be hilarious if that was played in a tongue-in-cheek manner.

Insert witty 'n clever quip here.

Mini-Me Syndrome?

It's been forever since I've seen any of the Austin Powers movies, so I dunno.

Insert witty 'n clever quip here.

I can't believe I didn’t remember this sooner, but it is explicitly stated that some superheroes "don't have powers". By Buddy himself.

Buddy: This is because I don't have powers, isn't it? Well, not every superhero has powers, you know. You *can* be super without them. I *invented* these. [points to his rocket boots] I can fly! Can you fly?
Mr. Incredible: Fly home, Buddy. I work alone.

(Also, Dynaguy was shown flying via wrist-mounted rockets. So there's totally precedent for tech-based powers.)

I guess the issue of whether super-smarts and super-engineering counts as a power is just a semantic issue. Buddy could have been a superhero on his own terms, but he insisted he had to be Mr. Incredible's ward. And when Mr. I would have none of it, for perfectly logical reasons, Buddy missed the point and assumed he was being discriminated against.

I didn't write any of that.

there are good ways to ask a superhero if you can be his sidekick/apprentice. sneaking into his car, interrupting him during a fight with a supervillain, and indirectly putting dozens of people in danger are not good ways.

edited 23rd Mar '15 4:58:53 PM by crimsonstorm15

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

Maybe, if Buddy had just waited a few years...

I like evil counterparts. Some can be gimmicky, others not. Evil Super Family doesn't sound half-bad, just, how are you going to give them motivations/goals opposite the Incredibles?

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!

They could simply be misguided, or be evil while having some family values, just like Mirage did (she seemed pretty OK with murdering countless heroes and innocent civilians up to the point where children became involved).

Speaking of Mirage, she is one character I would like to see return in Incredibles 2. We still know next to nothing about her.

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.

I think her actress died recently. What's Pixar's record on retiring characters vs. recasting? Offhand, I recall Doc died with Paul Newman, but Slinky and... George Carlin's hippy microbus got recast.

Fresh-eyed movie blog

A few of the voices died between Cars and Cars 2 given how a lot of them were up there in age or had an accident, and Pixar did a whole bunch of things. For Paul Newman, they had his character really die between films. For Joe Ranft, they had Red live, but simply not have a voice at all. In Toy Story 3, after Jim Varney died, they just replaced Slinky's voice with a friend of his.

Huh. Apparently an official synopsis of the sequel was released this past week and I totally missed it!

In a nutshell, a six-year-old Jack-Jack turns into a villain!

edited 25th Mar '15 2:14:49 PM by kyun

Think you're overgeneralizing what the plot there is.

It looks...interesting, I guess. Eh.

Insert witty 'n clever quip here.

I'll wait for more official confirmation before I comment on the plot.

WHAAAAAT? :o

My various fanfics.

OK. Not particularly thrilled here. Let's hope this is inaccurate or that there are more twists to expect.

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.