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Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#1826: Jan 21st 2015 at 5:59:58 PM

[up]I think they said his gun went the closest to Absolute Hot that is actually possible for being a man made object.

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hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#1827: Jan 21st 2015 at 6:00:32 PM

Perhaps these weapons reorganize the entropy in their targets w/o adding or removing net energy?

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#1828: Jan 21st 2015 at 6:05:12 PM

[up][up]Then they could just say "It heats things up to several thousand degrees" since nothing man-made could approach even one billionth of one percent what absolute hot is.

Sorry I'm nitpicking about this so much but that line broke my Suspension of Disbelief entirely.

edited 21st Jan '15 6:06:00 PM by Kostya

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1829: Jan 21st 2015 at 6:06:54 PM

Maybe I should watch it again but I swear the term "absolute hot" was used.

I was unable to edit this into the last thing I posted, but I don't think they meant the head maximum of the universe when they said "maximum hot." Rather, Cisco is using a turn of phrase to play up how Heatwave's gun is essentially Captain Cold's opposite.

Or in short, the full sentence is more important than just the words "maximum hot."

And even so, the first thing I would associate it with is how things have a maximum heat before they undergo a state change, not the hottest heat that's physically possible.

edited 21st Jan '15 6:08:47 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#1830: Jan 21st 2015 at 6:10:35 PM

Okay, that's probably what he meant. I just took Cisco's statement literally since Cold's gun is usually described as being a gun that slows things down to absolute zero instead of just shooting ice.

Moving on. What powers does Cold's Sister have?

edited 21st Jan '15 6:11:07 PM by Kostya

Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
We Are With You Zack Snyder
#1831: Jan 21st 2015 at 6:19:04 PM

[up]New Earth she wore Ice Skates that created their own ice so she could skate anywhere. She also had Captain Cold's cold gun modified in the shape of a baton.

New 52 her powers are Astral Projection and Flight.

edited 21st Jan '15 6:19:34 PM by Halberdier17

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1832: Jan 21st 2015 at 6:40:57 PM

I'm kind of surprised that Caitlin was kidnapped by an up close and personal with a cold villain without a single in-joke or odd bit of foreshadowing (or Mythology Gag, on the off chance it's not actually happening). They're showing a bit more restraint on the one-off references than previously.

edited 21st Jan '15 6:43:26 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
We Are With You Zack Snyder
#1833: Jan 21st 2015 at 6:52:07 PM

Spoilers Ray and Felicity will appear on the Flash in Episode 1.18 to get STAR Labs help with his ATOM technology.

edited 21st Jan '15 6:53:17 PM by Halberdier17

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1834: Jan 21st 2015 at 7:08:33 PM

The first thing that popped into my head was: "I wonder if they're going to go up against a member of Flash's Rogues Gallery or Atom's in that episode."

Then: "wait, does Atom even have a Rogues Gallery?"

And then, after looking it up: "wait, Chronos is Atom's archenemy? I wonder if they'll adapt him in some way in the future and use that to further the whole time travel plot in some way."

edited 21st Jan '15 7:09:17 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
addikt Man Tears Fuel Me from Planet of Ultra Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#1835: Jan 21st 2015 at 7:14:59 PM

Oh my goodness, the preview for the next episode is amazing... so ready.

I only got into this show about 2 weeks ago and it's fantastic. I LOVE Wells. And everybody. I just love everybody. It's so hard not to.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#1836: Jan 21st 2015 at 7:20:45 PM

[up]I want to give Barry a hug every time he's onscreen, and I mean that in the gayest way possible.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
SpaceWolf from The Other Rainforest Since: Apr, 2012
#1837: Jan 21st 2015 at 7:22:51 PM

Rob: I'll have to rewatch the trailer. Help me out, because I'm less familiar with Flash's comics. Is Piper supposed to be Camp Gay, or Straight Gay? As far I saw from the trailer, he didn't seem too camp, but I'll go back.

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Montegoraon Since: Jan, 2011
#1838: Jan 21st 2015 at 7:59:09 PM

Barry does refer to the Planck temperature when talking about Heatwave's gun, so yes, they actually do mean absolute hot. That's 1.4*10^32 K. There's really no analogy that can meaningfully explain how hot that it. It makes a hypernova look frigid.

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#1839: Jan 21st 2015 at 8:21:17 PM

So... how does it not kill everyone on the planet every time he pulls the trigger?

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#1840: Jan 21st 2015 at 8:29:23 PM

[up]The same reason just touching something that was just hit by Cold's gun doesn't give someone frostbite.

[up][up]Dammit I had just managed to move past how stupid that was.

edit: I'm not even joking when I say that's over a billion billion billion degrees. The entire universe only achieved that level of heat for a brief moment near the big bang.

edited 21st Jan '15 8:32:38 PM by Kostya

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#1841: Jan 21st 2015 at 9:58:54 PM

Absolute Hot vid

I know about Absolute Hot, and I didn't lose any disbelief, but that's just me chalking it up to Comic Book Physics. Absolute Zero should kill anyone who gets too close, right?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#1842: Jan 21st 2015 at 10:43:16 PM

I guess it depends on how you define too close. I imagine most people would instinctively move away before they actually got hurt. If not then you definitely shouldn't be able to touch something right afterwards like Caitlin did.

AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#1844: Jan 22nd 2015 at 5:21:18 AM

You know, seeing Cold kidnapping Caitlin Snow and strapping her to a device, I half expected it to be what would cause her to become Killer Frost. Of course, it would have been very early, but I wonder if he will somehow be involved in this origin story, and of course if we will have the chance to see an unambiguously good character become a villain - if it happens, I supposed that there will be some relationship with the investigation on Firestorm.

AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#1845: Jan 22nd 2015 at 10:42:28 AM

Caitlin Snow? I guess it's better than Crystal Frost.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1846: Jan 22nd 2015 at 11:57:37 AM

[up] Yep. Caitlin's the Nu52 Frost, though in the show she takes some of Crystal Frost's backstory. So far, the only Killer Frost she doesn't have a piece of is Louise Lincoln (as far as I know), unless she ends up looking like her.

edited 22nd Jan '15 12:50:19 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#1847: Jan 23rd 2015 at 6:22:47 PM

On a side note, I told John everyone really enjoyed his role in Flash. His response: "That's seriously awesome, thanks!"

Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#1849: Jan 25th 2015 at 10:23:31 AM

Firestorm and General Eiling in the same episode? That should be an interesting.

Is Linda Park anyone special? The name sounds familiar.

Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
We Are With You Zack Snyder
#1850: Jan 25th 2015 at 10:38:12 AM

[up]She is Wally West wife before the New 52. In this Barry will date her for a while.

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