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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#9676: May 3rd 2016 at 10:29:03 PM

[up] No, because we know Barry's father is still there and Barry's name is still "Barry Allen." So Henry Allen still exists on Earth-2 along with Nora Allen.

However, on Earth-2, he might have a twin brother. Who took his mother's maiden name instead of his father's name. Possibly.

Still, I don't think the Man in the Iron Mask looks like John Wesley Shipp that much.

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#9677: May 3rd 2016 at 10:44:54 PM

...So right as they give Wally super speed Barry disappears into the Speed Force.

Gee.

That sounds familiar.

It's probably not permanent, though.

Un a completely unashamed fanboy note?

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edited 3rd May '16 10:55:16 PM by math792d

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#9678: May 4th 2016 at 5:25:37 AM

I assume that Barry is exactly in the place he was pulled from by Shayera & the JL after defeating Brainiac!Luthor in JLA.

So, the Speed Force. Speed Force is always the answer anyway.

In any event, I like how Barry needs to have 10 more deaths on his conscience before reaching the inevitable conclusion and trying to fix the mess he created in the first place when he reopened the portals to Earth-2.

Still, I wonder if we will see Zoom gloating like an idiot...only to be put down for good by Flash-2 & Jesse Quick who rapidly mastered their powers since they either were a real genius or a dude obsessed with speed.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#9679: May 4th 2016 at 6:02:49 AM

So I know I ask this every week now, but just how long does Joe plan to keep Wally Locked Out of the Loop? Sure, lock him in a bunker, but how is Iris in any less danger?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#9680: May 4th 2016 at 6:19:43 AM

Wally has to have gotten his speed by now, so that's not an option anymore.

Holy shit this episode was great. Best of the season.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#9681: May 4th 2016 at 9:59:33 AM

I spent the entire episode being alternatively annoyed and impressed. "Yeah yeah, this is a good episode, but it's all filler. We know he's getting his speed back, just do it!" And then... that happened.

Wally and Jesse might be out for the rest of the season, since Barry was in a coma for nine months when he first got his speed. On the other hand, they seemed to have gotten hit by Speed Force!Barry rather than the whole lightning and chemicals thing, so maybe they'll recover faster.

Cross Since: Aug, 2012
#9682: May 4th 2016 at 10:03:05 AM

So is it Henry's turn to punch Harry or is it going to be a group thing?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9683: May 4th 2016 at 10:15:34 AM

I think at this point, everyone will be punching him. It's gonna be a round robin thing where each person takes a turn for a few minutes.

Hell, at this point, I'm sure Harry is gonna be punching himself, especially when he finds out what he did to his own daughter.

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#9684: May 4th 2016 at 11:03:42 AM

[up][up][up] Judging by the episode previews, it seems that Jesse and Wally do indeed recover faster, as Wally's gonna be taking to the streets before the finale.

edited 4th May '16 11:04:03 AM by ITNW1989

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#9685: May 4th 2016 at 11:06:09 AM

[up]Also Zoom recovered immediately after the particle accelerator explosion.

I think the reason Barry didn't was the chemicals.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9686: May 4th 2016 at 11:49:36 AM

...

So the chemicals actually didn't help then?

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Ellowen My Ao3 from Down by the Bay Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#9687: May 4th 2016 at 12:29:55 PM

maybe. Also, Wells you idiot. 1) barry was drenched in the chemicals, not injected with them, and 2) he got drenched with them after he was hit by lighting.

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Cross Since: Aug, 2012
#9688: May 4th 2016 at 1:18:49 PM

Guess Eobard left that out or "conveniently" kept it vague.

DeanCole Since: Jun, 2015
#9689: May 4th 2016 at 2:24:54 PM

[up] Still.For all the emphasis he put getting recreating the scene exactly right, you'ed think he actually asked Barry to conform details.

Guess even smart people miss things

edited 4th May '16 2:25:30 PM by DeanCole

Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#9690: May 4th 2016 at 4:23:20 PM

Depends on if Barry even knows the exact details of what happened. I would imagine he was probably not conscious after the lightning strike.

Though I get the feeling reverse flash was not exactly concerned with having every detail in regards to how how rival got his speed. He only wrote down the general idea of events is my guess or his information is based on his flash who became flash later in life if memory is accurate.

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Ellowen My Ao3 from Down by the Bay Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#9691: May 4th 2016 at 4:57:23 PM

Nah, Harry would never bother confirming because he's always right and his plan is always right...in his own self-important mind. I'm really getting sick of him. it was fun for a few episodes but now I just want to punch him continously every time he so much as opens his mouth.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#9692: May 4th 2016 at 5:32:00 PM

I predict next season, we'll have an episode dedicated to the family of one of the SWAT officers Zoom killed, who suddenly gets powers/equipment and decides to go after The Flash for revenge.

Because holy crap, was it Red Shirt Day on The Flash.

edited 4th May '16 5:32:16 PM by FOFD

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#9693: May 4th 2016 at 6:11:23 PM

Gotta make room in the crime-fighting quota for two more speedsters, need less cops on hand.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9694: May 4th 2016 at 6:30:14 PM

[up]

There's a darkly humorous logic to that statement.

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Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#9695: May 4th 2016 at 7:25:36 PM

While the plan was not a great one no one seemed to have better ideas for stopping zoom. They also did not have anymore time to think to long since the previous bad ideas led to zoom being in an unprotected city to bring to its knees.

Earth 2 Wells already knew what was going to happen so he really have a point about getting Barry's speed back even if he did probably not have enough information to do it correctly.

"When I offered to make Norea my third back-up girlfriend she just glared at me and started throwing things at me.." Renee Costa
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#9696: May 4th 2016 at 7:38:55 PM

[up]

I think what you mean to say is THEY ARE ALL STUPID.

I mean, it's not fun if you try to be fair to them and use logic.

...You know, sometimes I wonder if I even like this show as much as I think I do.

I suppose I just like mocking them. It's fun.

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Cross Since: Aug, 2012
#9697: May 4th 2016 at 8:19:35 PM

The combination of night episode and tonight's Arrow made me start wondering what each person corporeal Patronus would be.

edited 4th May '16 8:21:22 PM by Cross

Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#9698: May 4th 2016 at 8:52:36 PM

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Definitely stupidity on their part especially since it is the very reason they are in the mess they are currently in. I am more meaning that Wells knew what was going to happen because he watched happen on his earth. He was the only person who seemed to have a potential solution.

Zoom literally has plenty of options since there is believed to be more meta humans on earth one thanks to the reverse flash. Those people that were hiding because of the flash know he is gone so they will be coming out of the woodwork soon.

"When I offered to make Norea my third back-up girlfriend she just glared at me and started throwing things at me.." Renee Costa
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#9699: May 4th 2016 at 9:25:00 PM

Wells was basing how to do this on notes left by Evil Wells. As we know, Evil Wells was actually Eobard Thawne, who gave himself speed powers by replicating the process that empowered the original Flash. So I'd be inclined to trust his notes on how the process works.

That said, they did have other options besides trying to re-speed Barry. Wells had a big list of metahumans who, so far, have not embarked on a life of supervillainy. Couldn't they go to some of those metahumans and appeal to their better natures, convince them to put their powers together to fight Zoom?

Prime_of_Perfection Where force fails, cunning prevails Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#9700: May 4th 2016 at 9:51:41 PM

I don't think they have the time for that, quite frankly.

At any rate, I'm less hard on Wells here since he's trying to clean up the mess everybody else made not leaving well enough alone. He wouldn't be pushed into such a desperate situation if not for their idiocy.

edited 4th May '16 9:53:08 PM by Prime_of_Perfection

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