Inside Out

Really, shouldn't a person's imagination have a copy of everything from the physical world, or at least a copy of how the person perceives those things?

If you mix Disney realities in with Pixar now, then the Buzz Lightyear video game character could be just as "real" as the toy too!

It's funny because it's out of context.

Sure, but with Bing Bong forgotten, they lack the ability to recall him for Riley. Bing Bong is now a subconscious influence instead of a memory.

So maybe she becomes an astronaut because she and Bing Bong always wanted to go to the moon, but she doesn't remember that's why she wants to be an astronaut; just a fuzzy impression of a childhood dream.

edited 10th Aug '15 11:05:51 AM by TobiasDrake

Riley still has the memories of playing with Bing Bong, as well. Unless he had every single memory that he was involved with on him when he faded away or something, those memories exist independently of Bing Bong himself.

A good comparison is, had Joy somehow faded away along with Bing Bong, Riley wouldn't have suddenly forgotten having ever been happy, she just wouldn't have been able to be conceive being happy going forward. Similarly, Riley remembers Bing Bong, but she no longer sees him as anything other than a memory.

edited 10th Aug '15 11:11:10 AM by KnownUnknown

On that note, I was actually curious if they were going to address whether or not Joy would be affected by the memory dump. She's not a memory but technically neither was Bing Bong, he was an interactive embodiment of her imagination and not a memory sphere.

I was really glad that they didn't cop out of Bing Bong's sacrifice nor make much of a fuss about it after Joy and Sadness got back to HQ. I've seen complaints about the fact that he was never brought up again, but for me, that felt rightfully tragic.

The precise nature of his Heroic Sacrifice was to be forgotten.

Joy wasn't fading while in the Memory Dump, at least not visibly. The blue memory was also still pretty bright unlike all the other orbs. It depends on if the Memory Dump actually causes what's sent down there to be forgotten or if it's just a place for things that are getting forgotten to be sent to while they fade.

I wondered a bit if, had Joy been forgotten down there, if Riley's mind would be capable of creating another Joy.

When Joy and Sadness first encounter Bing Bong amid the long-term memory shelves, he's clearly a fugitive, hiding from detection. This suggests that he should have been "forgotten" some time ago. Note how he was seen perusing the memory orbs, seeking some sign that he's remembered / relevant. Most especially, Bing Bong has to hide from those guys with the vacuum hose that clear away obsolete memories. "Here's a list of all the U.S. presidents." "Keep the Washington one and the Lincoln one, the rest can go." Sorry, Martin Van Buren, you're kind of forgettable.

Of course, Sadness read the manuals, so she knows her way around that part of Riley's mind, but she's also The Load. Bing Bong, I think, exists as an independent character to act as Tour Guide cum motivator for Joy + Sadness. Being a fugitive helps him to know a lot of the ins and outs of Riley's mind. It's one thing to read about a strange place; it's quite another thing to actually live there.

@spashthebandragon Was gonna tell you to calm down, but I see the discussion moved quickly. In any case, I was merely agreeing with the sentiment that there was already foreshadowing to his fate("why bring up the memory dump if no one explores it")

edited 10th Aug '15 4:57:59 PM by blueflame724

I... am calm?

Well, the main reason I bring that up is that we are shown things in the memory dumps that slowly disintegrate. If it was just the memory orbs it would leave anyone else in something of an And I Must Scream situation. But Bing Bong begins disappearing almost instantly, so I assumed something like that would happen with Joy too.

Just saw it at the cinema with my younger cousin (it took a few months to come out here after the US.)

Disgust seemed like a challenge to write for, she doesn't serve any function in the plot (Fear works as comic relief and voicing tension for the climax, Anger is also comic relief but does serve an important role at one point).

Alternatively, the problem would have been "solved" through an artificial version of Joy created by prescription drugs.

Robo-Joy?

"Fun-Happy-Run-ning-a-round-yaaaaaaaaaaaaay."

If I remember rightly, Joy came first (oh, goodie, I got borned). Then came Sadness (waah, I'm hungry). Then Fear, then Anger, then Disgust. Apparently these core emotions come along during infancy on an as-needed basis. So, if Riley ever has need to feel delight, another Joy will come along to fill the need. Although, that notion of a Prozac-based Joy has some creepy-intriguing possibilities. I can picture P-Joy looking like a Picasso sculpture midway through the Abstraction Zone.

Also, the bottom of the memory dump was carpeted with memory orbs. Perhaps they *poof* sooner if they were rarely used, and linger if they got more traffic. Joy's heavy usage might make her un-poof-able for quite a while.

I don't think a new Joy would be created. Some things are irreplaceable once they've been built. Like, when we're developing in the womb, we develop all the things we need, but we can't just grow a new arm if one gets destroyed. If Joy dies, I don't see any reason to think Riley would get a new one.

I think it depends on the kind of 'death' Joy gets. If it manifests itself as permanent brain damage, yeah, she doesn't come back.

Then again, it's hard to imagine how the inside world seen in the movie exactly relates to what doctors would actually see in Riley's brain.

And that's the Rabbit Hole line of thought that I imagine the filmmakers didn't want to address. Like what would happen if she was put on anti-depressants or any other kind of mood stabilizer.

Shouldn't Fear have been the first emotion, not Joy? I can't imagine a just-newborn baby feels Joy.

Of course it's narratively nice so this is just

On that subject, emotions shouldn't come to life with childbirth. Babies can have emotions and animic states when they're still in the womb.

Here's a clip from Riley's first date.

Hilarious

Wow, we're getting an Inside Out short so soon? Awesome.

I hope there's more humor involving interactions between the Emotions, though. Everything in that preview clip could've just been replaced with the human characters having a singular voice doing an inner monologue.

Dammit yahoo