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#26: Mar 6th 2014 at 4:03:19 AM

18 would seem to be the best way to approach this.

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#27: Mar 9th 2014 at 3:01:32 PM

I agree, it should be settings that are Always Night for whatever reason.

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#30: Mar 9th 2014 at 8:01:03 PM

I've already made by vote in favor.

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#31: Mar 28th 2014 at 5:24:07 PM

Calling for redefinition to the setting being always night.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#32: Mar 4th 2015 at 7:36:52 AM

Page is scrubbed. I'm not really happy about the Video Game examples, though. I'm not sure if stage/levels should count for the purposes of this trope or not. Even if it is, someone else should go over that section to doublecheck my work. I'll start on the wicks now.

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#33: Mar 4th 2015 at 7:45:44 AM

Yeah I am confused on that for Video Games, While Night Level might be a valid side trope for level based games.

But what about places like that City in Final Fantasy VIII? which is always at night, and I mean always even in flashback from 20 years ago it is at night. The World Map even goes night when the city is approached and goes day when you move away from it.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#34: Mar 4th 2015 at 7:48:38 AM

That seems much clearer: it is an example. Anything with a world map that indicates "this area is dark" seems to have the same sense of belonging that non-videogame examples have. But randomly running into a cave level, or one stage is dark to represent time passing, doesn't seem to fit.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#35: Mar 24th 2015 at 10:17:48 AM

I've gone through up to One Night on the wicks. Feeling drained after that. Don't really want to continue the cleanup. Does anyone else have opinions on what I and ~Memers think RE: vigeo games with nighttime levels?

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#36: Mar 24th 2015 at 1:06:11 PM

There are some definite bits of misuse in the video game folder.

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#37: Dec 16th 2015 at 10:45:09 PM

I think this is done? Might have some bad examples left in, but the description seems to be fixed to go with the crowner.

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#38: Dec 26th 2015 at 7:59:58 AM

I'm certain the Video Game examples aren't fixed, and I haven't visited the wicks since my last post. Example cleanup is the last objective preventing this from completion.

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#39: Dec 27th 2015 at 9:26:23 PM

Just pruned a few examples. Some of those involve being in space, which is obvious misuse in my eyes.

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#40: Dec 27th 2015 at 10:09:34 PM

Space has no day/night cycle, so those are definitely shoehorns.

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#41: Dec 28th 2015 at 1:58:38 AM

I am guessing people mistake "permanently dark sky" (because space lacking an atmosphere means that it isn't illuminated by scattered light even when you are looking towards the sun) for "night".

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#42: Jan 1st 2016 at 6:38:50 PM

I've cleaned the main page. Going through the wicks.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#43: Feb 5th 2016 at 11:11:50 AM

How are the wicks, ~shimaspawn? I've seen the development of Dimly Lit Land, which looks to be collecting some of this trope's misuse from Missing Supertrope Syndrome.

edited 5th Feb '16 11:12:00 AM by crazysamaritan

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#44: Feb 5th 2016 at 11:17:43 AM

I got mostly through them, but I have been having some real life issues keeping me busy.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#45: Oct 21st 2016 at 5:47:34 PM

Rechecked on-page examples, except for Video Games. Wicks still have misuse.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#46: Feb 11th 2017 at 7:46:58 AM

Misuse seems down to manageable levels.

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#47: Feb 11th 2017 at 7:53:01 AM

"Manageable levell"?

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#48: Feb 11th 2017 at 7:54:26 AM

Randomly checking wicks, I'm only seeing "this setting takes place at night", mostly for video games. I didn't manually check 200+ wicks.

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#49: Apr 30th 2017 at 2:53:09 PM

What do we do with wicks that are just the name of the area/region/level? Really, I'm asking about how much context this trope needs for any example given that it's just "the area is always in the night."

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#50: Apr 30th 2017 at 3:59:02 PM

They need context.

Context could be why it's always night, or what effect the fact that it's always night has on the characters or the plot.

Are they always night because of axial tilt or some other scientific reason (common in sci-fi)? Are they always night because of a curse or evil magic (high fantasy does this a lot)? Are they always night because a powerful character wants them that way (could be in almost any genre that has room for a reality warper)? Is there some other reason?

However, I have a different question — does it count as this trope if it isn't actually , literally, always night, but it is night for the entire length of time that the story takes? I'm thinking of things like that Vampire movie set in the Artic — it's not truly "always night" but the whole movie takes place during the "night"

edited 30th Apr '17 4:09:10 PM by Madrugada

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